Hi everyone, This is Andy, Proton founder/CEO here. I just wanted to share the news that Standard Notes and Proton are joining forces.
This was an idea that people from both the Proton and Standard Notes communities have brought up repeatedly over the years, and after discussing it with Mo, the founder of Standard Notes, we both felt it was a good idea.
Both Proton and Standard Notes have unique shared values. We are both community-driven, not VC-financed, and committed to open-source. By joining forces, we hope to deliver more valuable services to both the Proton and Standard Notes user communities. A bit more about this on the Proton blog here.
As always, thanks for your support as we continue to fight for a more private internet, now with even more people on the team!
The 100MB storage limit feels ridiculous. ProtonMail offers 500MB basic with 1GB free upgrade, and ProtonDrive starts at 2GB up to 5GB free. It’s unclear why Standard Notes storage isn’t shared like these other Proton products.
Basic formatting tools like bold and italics are absent on free plan. What makes it different from notes in Proton Pass?
Jurisdictional troubles. It is not Swiss as Proton or SimpleLogin
P.S: Their app looks like PWA (progressive web application) not as standalone app.
Doesn’t have to be plain text. I’m not using Standard Notes as my media storage solution or anything, but I keep a section for house repair stuff. I bundle repair photos, receipts, PDF manuals, etc into my notebook.
Doing a tare down of my leaking dishwasher? I document the shit out of that.
This is practically a non-announcement.
Proton, your products and services are great. But sometimes your PR needs work.
This is basically saying “Standard Notes and Proton are doing something!? We don’t know what yet.” It doesn’t even say “More details will follow.”
What are we supposed to do with this vacuum of information you just created? All this does is give us questions. That’s not an example of good communication.
Maybe. Or maybe its a discount on a Simple Notes subscription. We’re all just guessing. I’d bet they don’t even know yet what “joining forces” really means yet exactly.
I don’t think they should have announced anything, until they could answer some of the most basic questions of what they’re planing.
Really? It could mean Standard Notes is going away, and in a couple years it’ll be Proton Docs or something. I don’t know. I’m not even sure they know yet.
Standardnotes will keep running as independent service and Proton is also looking into ways how to make Standardnotes more accessible to the Proton community.
I do not have more information for now. Personally I do think it will be like SimpleLogin somewhen, yes.
In the coming months, we hope to find ways to make Standard Notes more easily accessible to the Proton community. This way, in addition to protecting your email, calendar, files, passwords, and online activity, you can also protect your notes.
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Proton Calendar is the world’s first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.
Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It’s open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.
Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.
SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.
I’m excited 😀
For now there are not usable for me.
The 100MB storage limit feels ridiculous. ProtonMail offers 500MB basic with 1GB free upgrade, and ProtonDrive starts at 2GB up to 5GB free. It’s unclear why Standard Notes storage isn’t shared like these other Proton products. Basic formatting tools like bold and italics are absent on free plan. What makes it different from notes in Proton Pass? Jurisdictional troubles. It is not Swiss as Proton or SimpleLogin P.S: Their app looks like PWA (progressive web application) not as standalone app.
100MB of plain text notes is probably quite a lot of notes
Doesn’t have to be plain text. I’m not using Standard Notes as my media storage solution or anything, but I keep a section for house repair stuff. I bundle repair photos, receipts, PDF manuals, etc into my notebook.
Doing a tare down of my leaking dishwasher? I document the shit out of that.
So…is Standard Notes indie and owner-operated and owner-made like all the services from proton are?
This is practically a non-announcement.
Proton, your products and services are great. But sometimes your PR needs work.
This is basically saying “Standard Notes and Proton are doing something!? We don’t know what yet.” It doesn’t even say “More details will follow.”
What are we supposed to do with this vacuum of information you just created? All this does is give us questions. That’s not an example of good communication.
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Maybe. Or maybe its a discount on a Simple Notes subscription. We’re all just guessing. I’d bet they don’t even know yet what “joining forces” really means yet exactly.
I don’t think they should have announced anything, until they could answer some of the most basic questions of what they’re planing.
Main message, as I see it is, that standardnotes’ long term future is secure.
Really? It could mean Standard Notes is going away, and in a couple years it’ll be Proton Docs or something. I don’t know. I’m not even sure they know yet.
Standardnotes will keep operating, as does SimpleLogin.
So it’ll be a bundle like SimpleLogin?
Standardnotes will keep running as independent service and Proton is also looking into ways how to make Standardnotes more accessible to the Proton community.
I do not have more information for now. Personally I do think it will be like SimpleLogin somewhen, yes.
How will this work? I already have a Standard Notes account, and a paid Proton account. Will there be an option to merge them?
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This is all the information we have
Right now not. What will be afterwards I do not know. Personally I hope and think yes :D
So do I.
Does it mean I will be able to login to Standard Notes using Proton account the same way as I do with SimpleLogin?