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What makes you think that? I’d assume such an announcement would come from Proton not Standard Notes. As like a, “hey, here’s more value from your subscription” kind of a thing. I don’t think it would cost them any more to offer it. Especially since it’d use Proton Drive to sync.


I really hope as a Proton Unlimited subscriber I’ll have access to the full version of Standard Notes eventually, like what happened with Simple Login. Although it’s clear that they used the SN acquisition to launch Proton Docs or whatever it is, which I appreciate although I don’t use, I’d love to switch from Obsidian to SN. Just need access to the markdown functionality.


Send me a link and I’ll tell you


Yeah, and I disabled the PIN too


When does “first” start? Or when does it get reset? I work from home some days and from the office others. I usually keep my computer on and browser open but I do lock windows. I guess what mean is why doesn’t it hold onto the data from the previous day when I was working from home?


When does “first” start? Or when does it get reset? I work from home some days and from the office others. I usually keep my computer on and browser open but I do lock windows. I guess what mean is why doesn’t it hold onto the data from the previous day when I was working from home?


How does offline mode work in Pass?
I just found out that Pass has offline mode from a recent email they sent and found language saying the same in the browser extension (see below). Proton is blocked on my work's network for some reason so as far as Proton is concerned I'm "offline", but I still can't access the credentials stored in the browser extension when I'm at work. Can someone help explain? - Quick offline access to your login data: Access your stored passwords and notes in Pass from wherever you are, even when you don’t have internet connection. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/proton-pass/ And this is from their recent email ![](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/65ce1091-ed5e-4e03-9975-d5cf609ecc27.png)
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I guess the reason I’m concerned about it is because with Identities, they added a new entry type and let it autofill at the same time. Whereas the credit card entry type has been around from the beginning and still doesn’t have autofill.


Credit Card auto fill
I know Pass is new and growing, but I always thought that maybe it doesn't auto-fill credit card info because expanding the field types that get auto-filled past Username and password is difficult. But now that we have identities (which I'm super happy about), I'm thinking cc auto fill is being withheld for security reasons or something instead of technical ones. What do you think?
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Money now is worth more than the same amount of money later. There’d rather get paid up front. Plus it locks you in rather than risking you dropping off after a couple of months


100% this. So often prioritizing privacy means giving up a thousand little creature comforts


I was so happy to see that they finally implemented this. I started the thread on Uservoice just after Pass launched and got an automated message this morning saying it was closed. I may be able to move my wife from Bitwarden to Pass now, although she’s resistant to change just for the novelty of it unlike myself.






Duuuude. This is awesome. But I still can’t edit calendar events on mobile if there’s another participant added. There are many simple things that need attention.


I feel like you’re missing sufficient evidence to establish causality. I get that the timing is coincidental but you should be more open to other factors. I hope you were professional when reaching out to Proton support


Oh, I get it. Like a single sign on (sso). Facebook and amazon and github do this too, but it depends on the site.


I don’t know what connect with Google is either so that explanation is not helpful


What does connect with Apple do?

I won’t ever use Apple services because of the lock-in. I haven’t checked but I doubt there’s an Android app, Windows App, or Firefox extension for Apple Passwords.


I typed up directions to my wife about how to access all of my accounts. I left blanks like _______ and used a pencil to write in all of the important information like what 2FA app to use and passwords to some key stuff.


I’m interested too. I currently use Obsidian syncing to my home server, but I like the idea of using Standard Notes synching to Proton Drive. Although you can’t use Markdown with the free version of standard notes, so I’m hoping full featured Standard Notes will be included with Proton Unlimited


Exactly. This is like asking if it’s safe to lock the key inside of the safe.


My biggest annoyance is not being able to edit events on mobile if they have a participant. Seems like a nonsense limitation


Yeah, but I have zero vulnerable and hundreds of weak. And like I said the “weak” ones were auto generated anyway.


They should either have more tiers or let you sort by entropy so I can focus on changing the least secure ones first


How does Proton decide if a password is weak or not? About half (361 of 678) are considered weak, and I used either Bitwarden or Proton Pass itself to generate a random one. A bunch of the ones I’ve spot checked have upper, lower, numbers, and symbols and they’re still getting flagged as weak. I wish there were a more granular scale because I’d be happy to change the passwords that are truly weak but I’m not going to change hundreds of passwords to a different random string.


This is awesome! I have access to it now and the “reused passwords” feature is helping me find duplicates. For example, some login credentials are for a website, some are for the same app as the website but they appear in Pass as separate. So cleaning those out is super easy now.

Edit: omg there are so many duplicates! A lot of them are also associated with “different” sites and display as two unique logins, but the two sites differ by http vs https.


But that same logic should apply to top level folders. It doesn’t make sense to on have some folders alphabetized but not others.


Why shouldn’t subfolders be alphabetical? It’s logical.


Thoughts on folders
There's a button to "sort" folders in the settings which sorts the currently existing folders alphabetically. Then when you create a new folder it gets put at the bottom. Can we just have them sort alphabetically automatically? Also when you click sort, it only sorts the top-level folders. The subfolders don't get sorted at all. This is the kind of rough-around-the-edges stuff that Proton really needs to sort out before adding more and more services.
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No one else can use your password as long as they don’t have your password


All of my icons are circles. Are yours not?


Wow, I didn’t know you could do that. I’ve always used the Pixel stock launcher but just recently installed Lawn Chair. Don’t know if every launcher allows you to rename or not.

So when I rename they re-sort alphabetically so I’m renaming to “P Calendar”, “P Mail” etc to keep them together. It’s a little clunky but solves my problem


In the coming months, we hope to find ways to make Standard Notes more easily accessible to the Proton community. This way, in addition to protecting your email, calendar, files, passwords, and online activity, you can also protect your notes.

This is all the information we have


That the labels for the apps get truncated so you can only read "Proton" plus the first letter of the app. I'm only able to distinguish based on the icons which isn't great because Pass and Drive are similar colors, and Pass and VPN, and Drive and Calendar are similar shapes.
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In the coming months, we hope to find ways to make Standard Notes more easily accessible to the Proton community. This way, in addition to protecting your email, calendar, files, passwords, and online activity, you can also protect your notes.

This is all the info we get


It looks like it won’t work unless I have premium. Markdown in particular is only on the premium version. Ah well. We’ll see if it gets included in Proton Unlimited. If so, I’ll switch but if not, Obsidian already syncs on my home server so it works great.


Damn. I’m a little ways invested in Obsidian. Can I open Obsidian files in Standard Notes?


This is one of the major problems with passkeys that passwords don’t have. Are they device-specific, browser-specific, browser-on-device specific? Can I use the same one or do I need a different one if I’m on chrome but two different desktops, or desktop and laptop or if I use both Firefox and Chrome on the same phone/laptop? Until this stuff gets worked out, passkey aren’t going to go mainstream.


I think this might be on Firefox, not PayPal. But I don’t know enough about the situation to be sure.

Proton linked to this Firefox bug report in their article about how to set up passkey in Pass

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1862132


Everyone's been complaining about having access to passwords offline. While you could always do that with the Android app (and I assume iOS), you can now do it in Windows. [Direct link to install file from the screenshot email](https://proton.me/download/PassDesktop/win32/x64/ProtonPass_Setup.exe) Proton has been killing it lately. I feel like the speed at which they're rolling out new features and products has really picked up over the last year or so.
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Did the Proton Mail Beta app merge with the regular app?
I used to have both, because the beta didn't have necessary features like archive but did have threaded convos. Now "both" of my Proton Mail apps are the same app but I have 2 icons. They both open the same thing. ![](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/67e1e231-3e3a-4723-b1b0-8561e4036b8b.png)
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How to manage 2FA for Proton account if Proton Pass is my 2FA thing?
I'm migrating the handful of accounts that I have 2FA set up in from using Authy to using Proton Pass. But I'm stuck on my Proton account itself. Should I keep Authy just for my Proton account and then once I'm in, I can use Pass for the rest of the 2FAs? What do you do?
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Alright Proton, you have one year
My wife and I both use Bitwarden and share passwords back and forth. We switched from LastPass after the chrome extensions shit the bed, and thankfully before they got hacked. Tonight I got her to just *make* a Pass Plus account under the one year free deal. She voiced her opposition to switching "again". I told her it's not better than Bitwarden yet anyway, but I'll keep an eye on it and let her know when it's better. I'm going to need to make a convincing case to get her to switch.... again.
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Questions about password sharing in Proton Pass
1) Can I do it yet? 2) I assume it's at the vault level. Meaning an entire vault is either shared or not shared, rather than each individual password within. Yes? 3) Can both (all, but in my case my wife) people with access to the shared vault add/delete/edit all passwords within it? 4) what's the situation if a paid account is sharing a vault with a free account?
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