The Indian government has decided to block ProtonMail, an end-to-end encrypted email service, after a bomb threat was sent to private schools in Chennai. ProtonMail is working to resolve the situation and cooperate with Indian authorities. However, the company cannot directly answer to foreign law enforcement authorities.
The IT ministry has reportedly decided to issue an order blocking end-to-end encrypted email service ProtonMail. According to a report in Hindustan Times, the government is planning to block the email service at the request of the Tamil Nadu police over a hoax bomb threat sent to at least thirteen private schools in Chennai on February 8. The report says that the decision to block ProtonMail was taken at a meeting of the 69A blocking committee on Wednesday (February 14).
A Proton spokesperson told the publication that the company has received the request from MeitY “a few days ago”. “We are currently working to resolve this situation and are investigating how we can best work together with the Indian authorities to do so. We understand the urgency of the situation and are completely clear that our services are not to be used for illegal purposes. We routinely remove users who are found to be doing so and are willing to cooperate wherever possible within international cooperation agreements,” the spokesperson said.
Btw Internet Freedom Foundation (or the IFF) filed several RTI requests (RTI = Request to information) regarding this situation. If anyone wants to follow their progress then here’s their Mastodon account: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to
The IFF is a highly trustworthy and well respected organization that fights for Indians digital rights and democratic freedoms. They’ve done a lot of good work over the years, they even helped VLC to get unblocked when it was banned in India.
I don’t use a VPN much as I don’t have the budget to buy a subscription to a decent VPN(not that I know which VPNs are decent and which are bad). I was just making a tongue in cheek comment about using a proton service to overcome a proton service ban
Yes the ISPs/carriers have to implement the block. Almost all of them block the major sites but there are a sites which are blocked by one and not by the other.
Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is
But jio aldready blocks all the vpns right so i guess tor or other careers which i am guessing will follow in jio’s way and i fucking switched to jio yesterday from airtel 🤦
And whom do we vote in. The congress and the others are full of idiots as well. Unfortunately no smart honest person will go into Indian politics because they know that between the beauracracy and the corruption, there is no way they make an useful change.
I don’t know either, but from what I know, bureaucracy and corruption is often a result of bad organizational structure. Some “designated officer” raises a finger which gets approved by the Secretary who is appointed by the minister who is appointed by the PM who is nominated by the Lok Sabha, and we lose yet another privacy protecting service. I think we should have more direct control in these matters.
For now, if we cannot expect a proper functioning web, they cannot expect stability under their seats. Vote them out.
Indeed and as the reply above you mentioned, whom do we vote? If there is a truly good party here, It’s either too unknown or too small so I suppose we can just hope for the best
I’d vote for a purely retaliatory reason.
So they know that the support they have isn’t as ironclad as they’d assume.
But I also have bailed from there so…
¯_(ツ)_/¯
While it’s true that voting for a purely retaliatory reason would be good but wouldn’t you want your vote to have some amount of change? I’m not discrediting the integrity of the smaller parties but it really won’t make much of a difference to vote for them even if it is towards a good cause simply because their size is too small to compete with the giants or even in state elections. Andhbhakts are everywhere unfortunately.
The block order hasn’t been initiated “”“yet”“” but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it’s not much to go with.
Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they’ll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It’ll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.
I’m really hoping it doesn’t end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible… Yeah it doesn’t exactly induce much confidence…
Some Chinese hacker group called Cicada was using VLC to distribute malicious code and conduct cyberattacks. After this the website for VLC was blocked from February to November (I can’t remember for how long so this timeline might be wrong).
At least that’s what the reports says lol, the official reason was never revealed by the Indian Government which is just the cherry on top of this shit cake
The idiots just made it easier for cicada because people could no longer download the original executable so were downloading it from shady sites where the likelihood of the executable being infected by malicious code is very high. Just like almost everywhere else, the officials here are morons.
I’m pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.
I personally don’t use proton mail, since I don’t really get any e-mails so I just never use any sort of mail app, but what are some easy ways to bypass this?
I agree! But it’s still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren’t tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times
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Does anybody know how to email people at MeitY and complain about this decision. The official website has no useful information
Blocking committee lol
Thanks, Indian government. You’ve convinced me to sign up for Proton Mail
They probably typed it with a keyboard. They should ban them too.
Are they going to ban phones if someone uses one of those for the same purpose?
Man, can’t wait to see what they do to ban those that manufacture knives the next time someone gets attacked by a criminal with one. /s
Btw Internet Freedom Foundation (or the IFF) filed several RTI requests (RTI = Request to information) regarding this situation. If anyone wants to follow their progress then here’s their Mastodon account: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to
The IFF is a highly trustworthy and well respected organization that fights for Indians digital rights and democratic freedoms. They’ve done a lot of good work over the years, they even helped VLC to get unblocked when it was banned in India.
Why tf did they block vlc?
Here’s their toot mentioning the situation with Proton Mail: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to/111935324571240375
I am not on mastodon sadly they seems to be good
yes they are! and no worries, you can still view their toots and see if their RTI requests have been responded to
India is slowly becoming their neighbor everyday
Sadly yes, this digital authoritarianism is very concerning and immensely worrying
Not just digital sadly. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Will they also be blocking other proton services¿?
Nope, not yet at least…
Good. I will use proton VPN to get over this bullshit ban
@Sentau @Stewbs Proton VPN aren’t the best, I actually have BitDefender VPN … not so bad. Any other suggestions ?
I don’t use a VPN much as I don’t have the budget to buy a subscription to a decent VPN(not that I know which VPNs are decent and which are bad). I was just making a tongue in cheek comment about using a proton service to overcome a proton service ban
well they blocked every porn site in india for a different but equally stupid reason.
Well i just checked because of your comment and no they are’nt banned i think the law goes something like you can’t watch it in public or something.
Maybe they banned them and un-banned them later? It was a big story when the government of india banned porn sites.
Yeah maybe . And it was ?
Maybe not in the bubbles you hang out in.
I guess
Nah they are positively blocked, if you try to access them you’ll be hit by “The website has been blocked as per direction/order of Hon’ble Court.”
Really ? I guess you must be right . Or some specific carriers are blocking anyway i don’t wanna check by going into one of those sites.
Yes the ISPs/carriers have to implement the block. Almost all of them block the major sites but there are a sites which are blocked by one and not by the other.
Yeah I didn’t wanna check either haha but yes porn sites are blocked by most ISPs afaik
Was there last month, blocked. 🙃🙃🙃
Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is
That’s assuming the whole thing wasn’t manufactured to create an excuse to ban encrypted emails.
I think you expect too much from Indian boomers
nah that thought crossed my mind too, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was for that reason tbh
But jio aldready blocks all the vpns right so i guess tor or other careers which i am guessing will follow in jio’s way and i fucking switched to jio yesterday from airtel 🤦
Wasn’t my experience. My cell was Jio and so was the home internet, and ProtonVPN seemed to work just fine.
that sucks, I’ve never used Jio so I didn’t know that. The ISP that I use doesn’t really block VPNs so that’s good I guess lol
Yeah i am gonna switch back asap any suggestion ?
Airtel or ACT Fibernet would be my suggestion
I was using an airtel sim but saw a reddit thread about how much of your data airtel collects and switched. And now i am completely fucked by jio
oh that sucks, I’ve never used either so I wouldn’t know
They never will, we have to vote them out.
And whom do we vote in. The congress and the others are full of idiots as well. Unfortunately no smart honest person will go into Indian politics because they know that between the beauracracy and the corruption, there is no way they make an useful change.
I don’t know either, but from what I know, bureaucracy and corruption is often a result of bad organizational structure. Some “designated officer” raises a finger which gets approved by the Secretary who is appointed by the minister who is appointed by the PM who is nominated by the Lok Sabha, and we lose yet another privacy protecting service. I think we should have more direct control in these matters.
For now, if we cannot expect a proper functioning web, they cannot expect stability under their seats. Vote them out.
Indeed and as the reply above you mentioned, whom do we vote? If there is a truly good party here, It’s either too unknown or too small so I suppose we can just hope for the best
I’d vote for a purely retaliatory reason. So they know that the support they have isn’t as ironclad as they’d assume. But I also have bailed from there so… ¯_(ツ)_/¯
While it’s true that voting for a purely retaliatory reason would be good but wouldn’t you want your vote to have some amount of change? I’m not discrediting the integrity of the smaller parties but it really won’t make much of a difference to vote for them even if it is towards a good cause simply because their size is too small to compete with the giants or even in state elections. Andhbhakts are everywhere unfortunately.
You got a start protesting for your right buddy! This is the only way you can fight this oppressive governments! Be strong India!
The block order hasn’t been initiated “”“yet”“” but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it’s not much to go with.
Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they’ll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It’ll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.
I’m really hoping it doesn’t end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible… Yeah it doesn’t exactly induce much confidence…
The Indian government will crack down on regular people using encryption, but they don’t give a shit about the scammers based there.
Was going to say how they likely only meant they won’t accept email from Proton, then I read the article. Hyper-react, India?
Wait, why they ban VLC?
Some Chinese hacker group called Cicada was using VLC to distribute malicious code and conduct cyberattacks. After this the website for VLC was blocked from February to November (I can’t remember for how long so this timeline might be wrong).
At least that’s what the reports says lol, the official reason was never revealed by the Indian Government which is just the cherry on top of this shit cake
The idiots just made it easier for cicada because people could no longer download the original executable so were downloading it from shady sites where the likelihood of the executable being infected by malicious code is very high. Just like almost everywhere else, the officials here are morons.
I’m pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.
the same thing happened when the indian government banned porn
I personally don’t use proton mail, since I don’t really get any e-mails so I just never use any sort of mail app, but what are some easy ways to bypass this?
By using a VPN. Most have easy to follow guides on setting it up in your home router or mobile device.
I run all of my traffic over a VPN regardless to thwart my ISP from selling my data. Everyone should.
I agree! But it’s still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren’t tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times