there’s osm, but that doesn’t have the convenience of being able to just chuck in a place and have it tell me how to drive there, which I need if I’m at a red light and need to know how to get somewhere. ty :)
OruxMaps (android) supports several navigation methods, kml overlays, offline maps, various online and custom maps, good tracking, routes, gps, etc, etc. Waaay better than Google maps - although it can also happily use Google maps.
I was a big supporter of OSM+ but its just too buggy to be reliable -
My last trip it constantly said “keep left” when driving ( a topography bug apparently)
And it has got the wrong route too many times.
Unfortunately organic maps relies on your phones TTS for voice navigation - and I can’t seem to get that working with grapheneOS (even third party TTS)
I have to be honest, as much as I’ve degoogled my life, Maps is the one app I’ve yet to find good competition for. Every single alternative I’ve used has fallen short in some way, especially in terms of business details and street view, which are critically important for my work.
Maps is just too good, and it is the only Google product I still use (albeit through GrapheneOS with heavily restricted permissions and a dummy account.)
Its one of those services where I don’t mind it since they use all that data to improve and personalize the experience. Its able to tell me exactly at a glance how long to get someplace because it knows where I am and where I live. It knows to recommend certain types of places based on where I’ve been, and it has an ENORMOUS userbase with tons of reviews for even the tiniest places. It will automatically update operating hours for stores etc by ‘robo-calling’ them and asking an employee greatly reducing the number of calls they take… on and on and on. Is it “creepy”? yeah maybe but honestly who cares.
I even have timeline turned on. It remembers exactly when I went someplace. Like I was at a car dealership 6 months ago and needed to find a receipt they sent me in my email that I couldnt find otherwise… Check timeline to see when I was there and reference emails from that day, there it is.
Also I weirdly consider the need that I might need to use it as an alibi someday.
I’m completely de-googled otherwise. The places I go just honestly aren’t and never will be that interesting.
Apple Maps is the best replacement for Google Maps. None of the other options even come close, but it’s only for Apple devices. Organic Maps may work for you but it depends where you are and you won’t get traffic information and the routing is very basic.
Organic Maps is amazing! As it’s OSM it is still missing some establishments that are listed in Google maps, but to compensate it has amazing hiking trails. :)
I daily-drive Organic Maps, works very well, uses pre-downloaded maps, & allows OSM contribution. Ofc it’s reliant on OSM so may not work perfectly depending on the location
And it doesn’t work. You have to know an address, and even then sometimes it’ll route you to the wrong location. Anyway, that was my experience using it for a few months. About a 20% success rate where I live.
I’ve resorted to using latlong to look up an address, then copy & paste the coordinates into OSM+. It’s not great, but it works. I’m looking for something better so I can still use OSM+ and was hoping to find it here.
My ideal solution is an app that registers as a mapping app so I can tap an address and it’ll pop up, look up the coordinates then push to the clipboard or push as an address and I can choose OSM+.
One thing I agree is that address lookup is terrible. There are times where I cannot find a place on Osmand that I check in google maps where it is, then go Osmand and move the view to the same location myself. Not practical.
But: routing to wrong location. Almost never, for me it works perfectly. A few versions ago the announcement to take a turn would come a bit late, might have been my phone, no idea. Works fine now.
The only problem are road works in the city, Osm is not very current and it might route you wrong then, yeah.
Twice in a neighboring city i’ve been routed to the wrong location. They use street/avenue for ns/ew so maybe the map had them backwards. My input was correct and it found an address both times.
I’m testing it out and find the search very slow, even after downloading the map for the area.
A second problem I’m having with Magic Earth (maybe it’s all apps that use OSM) but it seems to use the county name rather than the city/town for some reason. If I have multipe towns with the same street in one county, I just get a list of locations that all look the same so I’m forced to guess.
I think my last issue with all the options I’ve tried except Here WeGo is they don’t provide contact info or business hours. I tend to use Google maps for that feature more than directions
I think my last issue with all the options I’ve tried except Here WeGo is they don’t provide contact info or business hours. I tend to use Google maps for that feature more than directions
You can use GMaps WV, or just Google Maps in a web browser, for that.
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would be nice if privacyguides.org added gps/napping to their website
OruxMaps (android) supports several navigation methods, kml overlays, offline maps, various online and custom maps, good tracking, routes, gps, etc, etc. Waaay better than Google maps - although it can also happily use Google maps.
Magic earth is closed source but good privacy-wise. Come preinstalled as part of /e/os for android.
Also pre-installed with iodéOS.
Has to be organic maps.
I was a big supporter of OSM+ but its just too buggy to be reliable - My last trip it constantly said “keep left” when driving ( a topography bug apparently) And it has got the wrong route too many times.
Unfortunately organic maps relies on your phones TTS for voice navigation - and I can’t seem to get that working with grapheneOS (even third party TTS)
I was able to get spoken directions working with Organic Maps on GrapheneOS using RHVoice (https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.olga_yakovleva.rhvoice.android/)
Does this support Android auto?
I Second this, Organic Maps is super stable, has good UI and is very detailed(even marks benches in parks where I live).
I have to be honest, as much as I’ve degoogled my life, Maps is the one app I’ve yet to find good competition for. Every single alternative I’ve used has fallen short in some way, especially in terms of business details and street view, which are critically important for my work.
Maps is just too good, and it is the only Google product I still use (albeit through GrapheneOS with heavily restricted permissions and a dummy account.)
yeah hard to beat how much data they have
Its one of those services where I don’t mind it since they use all that data to improve and personalize the experience. Its able to tell me exactly at a glance how long to get someplace because it knows where I am and where I live. It knows to recommend certain types of places based on where I’ve been, and it has an ENORMOUS userbase with tons of reviews for even the tiniest places. It will automatically update operating hours for stores etc by ‘robo-calling’ them and asking an employee greatly reducing the number of calls they take… on and on and on. Is it “creepy”? yeah maybe but honestly who cares.
I even have timeline turned on. It remembers exactly when I went someplace. Like I was at a car dealership 6 months ago and needed to find a receipt they sent me in my email that I couldnt find otherwise… Check timeline to see when I was there and reference emails from that day, there it is.
Also I weirdly consider the need that I might need to use it as an alibi someday.
I’m completely de-googled otherwise. The places I go just honestly aren’t and never will be that interesting.
Apple Maps is the best replacement for Google Maps. None of the other options even come close, but it’s only for Apple devices. Organic Maps may work for you but it depends where you are and you won’t get traffic information and the routing is very basic.
While I have a graphene os phone this is one of the main reasons I won’t get rid of my iPhone just yet.
Organic Maps is amazing! As it’s OSM it is still missing some establishments that are listed in Google maps, but to compensate it has amazing hiking trails. :)
Similar to what you want but not open source (I think) is Magic Earth which uses OSM I believe…
https://www.magicearth.com/
Never used this but it is mentioned from time to time.
I use this as my daily driver in my car, Can recommend!
https://wego.here.com/ is decent
I have it, and while I am not quite sure yet what they do with my data, you can run the app in offline mode.
Organic Maps has navigation
I daily-drive Organic Maps, works very well, uses pre-downloaded maps, & allows OSM contribution. Ofc it’s reliant on OSM so may not work perfectly depending on the location
yeah it seems to be the best. kinda shit but I’m willing to lose some functionality to not have google
I’ve never heard of that; I’m going to give it a try
OSMAnd~ absolutely does have navigation. Fully offline to boot.
And it doesn’t work. You have to know an address, and even then sometimes it’ll route you to the wrong location. Anyway, that was my experience using it for a few months. About a 20% success rate where I live.
Weird, just dropping a pin on the map works for me. I don’t use it a lot, but I just tried a dozen times at random and it worked every time.
I’ve resorted to using latlong to look up an address, then copy & paste the coordinates into OSM+. It’s not great, but it works. I’m looking for something better so I can still use OSM+ and was hoping to find it here.
My ideal solution is an app that registers as a mapping app so I can tap an address and it’ll pop up, look up the coordinates then push to the clipboard or push as an address and I can choose OSM+.
Good tip. Until an app can reasonably look up an address, it’s not a very good map/navigation app.
One thing I agree is that address lookup is terrible. There are times where I cannot find a place on Osmand that I check in google maps where it is, then go Osmand and move the view to the same location myself. Not practical.
But: routing to wrong location. Almost never, for me it works perfectly. A few versions ago the announcement to take a turn would come a bit late, might have been my phone, no idea. Works fine now. The only problem are road works in the city, Osm is not very current and it might route you wrong then, yeah.
Twice in a neighboring city i’ve been routed to the wrong location. They use street/avenue for ns/ew so maybe the map had them backwards. My input was correct and it found an address both times.
Could I get this on PC, or would I need an android emulator?
not sure about osmand but you can organicmaps on your pc
I’ve been using this for hiking. Ditched my AllTrails subscription and haven’t looked back. Highly customizable. Definitely worth taking a look.
@milkytoast Magic Earth is nice, way better than osm and organic maps
@VENMusica
I’m testing it out and find the search very slow, even after downloading the map for the area.
A second problem I’m having with Magic Earth (maybe it’s all apps that use OSM) but it seems to use the county name rather than the city/town for some reason. If I have multipe towns with the same street in one county, I just get a list of locations that all look the same so I’m forced to guess.
I think my last issue with all the options I’ve tried except Here WeGo is they don’t provide contact info or business hours. I tend to use Google maps for that feature more than directions
You can use GMaps WV, or just Google Maps in a web browser, for that.
how is it with data collection? that’s my main issue