I live in the EU and the company I work at has been bought out by an american company. They now want me to sign a document that lets them transfer my personal data from my employer to the USA. They want my Name, full address and birthday. It says that they need this for some “compliance regulation” which includes the prevention of terrorism (the ol’ classic). I feel uncomfortable giving them “explicit permission” to share this data even if it is done under “highest possible security measures” which, if they are not possible, might as well be none. I just started my apprenticeship, so they could fire me without providing a reason if I do not sign. Any help is well appreciated.
You could always just not do it any say nothing. It might just get forgotten, though more likely that eventually your manager will explicitly ask you to do it and they might have reasonable grounds for dismissal if you explicitly refuse. As others have said it’s probably not the worst thing in the world compared to your job!
This is required by GDPR. If the company wants to keep centralized employee records, likely where they are based in the US, GDPR requires them to get permission from EU citizens to do so.
The information they’re trying to store is public record, no government agency anywhere needs that provided to them.
I know people have been stating it’s okay to do it (it really is), but you’re asking for help. I think you know what your two options are (give it to them, or quit) you just don’t want to or aren’t ready to hear them and are hoping for a magical third option which realistically doesn’t exist.
Thing I hate most about Lemmy is users never miss a chance to shit on the US for absolutely everything. Your employer needs this info anywhere you work worldwide, this is not US abuse thing. Her company sold to a US company and they had the AUDACITY to ask for her basic information? Wow, US has REALLY gone too far this time, right comrades??
It’s pretty normal for the company you work for to have your name, address and DOB.
I’m all for protecting your privacy and online anonymity to the max but when it’s literally the company you work for that need the most basic information, which they do need for a variety of reasons to keep you employed, that’s a little too far IMO.
I think you’re reading too much into this. They are likely legally required to hand over a list of their employees to the US government. Like, if sou really don’t want them to do that, your only other option is quitting on the spot (or refusing and being let go, in case that makes a difference for things like unemployment benefits in your country).
My man if you think the US government don’t already know (or at a minimum could easily find out) your name, age, address & where you work if you’re not a goat farming hermit in Tibet or something then I have bad news for you
First, I am not a male. Second, I do believe the US gov has my data. Every single piece that is floating out there. I will still not share it with them, may there be the odd chance they do not yet have it.
it depends on where she lives. This is not the U.S. and it’s not that easy to fire people with unjustifiable reasons.
She may not want her information to be stored on servers in U.S. and if she’s fired for refusing to do just that, it may easily become a problem for the company.
if op can prove that her apprenticeship is terminated for refusing to share her personal information on U.S. servers, like i wrote, it would turn into a greater problem than keeping op’s apprenticeship and respecting her European rights
did i just write the same comment with modified wording?
she just needs to “know her rights” and remind what her rights are
Everything they’re asking for is pretty typical for the IRS (and probably a handful of other workplace-related departments). If you’re really that uncomfortable giving them less information than is required to get a driver’s license, then I think you know what your only choice is.
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You could always just not do it any say nothing. It might just get forgotten, though more likely that eventually your manager will explicitly ask you to do it and they might have reasonable grounds for dismissal if you explicitly refuse. As others have said it’s probably not the worst thing in the world compared to your job!
This is required by GDPR. If the company wants to keep centralized employee records, likely where they are based in the US, GDPR requires them to get permission from EU citizens to do so.
The information they’re trying to store is public record, no government agency anywhere needs that provided to them.
I know people have been stating it’s okay to do it (it really is), but you’re asking for help. I think you know what your two options are (give it to them, or quit) you just don’t want to or aren’t ready to hear them and are hoping for a magical third option which realistically doesn’t exist.
Yeah no, it is not that deep. I just did not know if I could not sign it. Appears I have to.
It’s ok to provide your employer with your personal infornation. kudos to them for asking.
They’re only asking because it’s an EU legal requirement; not out of some sense of ethics or morality.
Thing I hate most about Lemmy is users never miss a chance to shit on the US for absolutely everything. Your employer needs this info anywhere you work worldwide, this is not US abuse thing. Her company sold to a US company and they had the AUDACITY to ask for her basic information? Wow, US has REALLY gone too far this time, right comrades??
Oh I know. I had to do this myself and didn’t complain cause I’m not a raging psychopath.
I’m just pointing out that the company wouldn’t ask for your permission if it weren’t legally required to do so.
The company wouldn’t even pay you if it wasn’t required to, so…
Essentially yes
It’s pretty normal for the company you work for to have your name, address and DOB.
I’m all for protecting your privacy and online anonymity to the max but when it’s literally the company you work for that need the most basic information, which they do need for a variety of reasons to keep you employed, that’s a little too far IMO.
Oh absolutely, but they are asking me to agree with them handing it over to the US government.
I think you’re reading too much into this. They are likely legally required to hand over a list of their employees to the US government. Like, if sou really don’t want them to do that, your only other option is quitting on the spot (or refusing and being let go, in case that makes a difference for things like unemployment benefits in your country).
Tax and social security is US government too. These are basic dates, that every employer needs. In Germany the data your employer needs is:
My man if you think the US government don’t already know (or at a minimum could easily find out) your name, age, address & where you work if you’re not a goat farming hermit in Tibet or something then I have bad news for you
First, I am not a male. Second, I do believe the US gov has my data. Every single piece that is floating out there. I will still not share it with them, may there be the odd chance they do not yet have it.
Okay, then your other option is to refuse, and you will likely be fired. Good luck.
it depends on where she lives. This is not the U.S. and it’s not that easy to fire people with unjustifiable reasons.
She may not want her information to be stored on servers in U.S. and if she’s fired for refusing to do just that, it may easily become a problem for the company.
OP wrote about he//she just started apprenticeship which means company could sack him/her anytime. And without reason on top of it.
if op can prove that her apprenticeship is terminated for refusing to share her personal information on U.S. servers, like i wrote, it would turn into a greater problem than keeping op’s apprenticeship and respecting her European rights
did i just write the same comment with modified wording?
she just needs to “know her rights” and remind what her rights are
Asking for info: What’s you specific concern regarding this information? Is it that data is accessible in the USA, you don’t trust the company?
Data accessibility in the US. I am sharing my data with the US government. I am just quite unsure of that.
Everything they’re asking for is pretty typical for the IRS (and probably a handful of other workplace-related departments). If you’re really that uncomfortable giving them less information than is required to get a driver’s license, then I think you know what your only choice is.