Will its really good but isn’t Linux mint de and especially MX is better than Debain for A few tools but i agree that they’re better than official Ubuntu and easier than vanilla arch
I admittedly missed the last part way down at the bottom about systemd-sysv. I suppose that’s more acceptable… but still you’re going to be using a minority distro with a minority configuration … that rarely ends well.
All it does is symlink init to systemd. That is very unlikely to ever cause a problem. It will function the same as using SystemD by default. This distro has been around and working well for quite a long time now.
A fraction, but still not an insignificant amount. Either way, all it does it change /sbin/init to be a symlink to systemd. That’s the same exact thing distros using systemd by default do.
It depends on what you want to achieve. MX Linux is one of the less annoying Linux distributions (although I’m more into Void and Slackware, to be honest), but in terms of privacy (which is the very topic of this Lemmy community), it doesn’t do much better or worse than most other Linux distributions.
Yea, I’d like to know as well. I’ve used both Debian and MX. Other than the control panel thing MX has I can’t really think of any discernible differences.
been using it since the pandemic and it is all good. i started with xubuntu but had problems with R after an LTS update (in 2020 i think). looked for an easy to install xfce alternative - tried mx linux and havent had a problem since.
Been using it on all 3 of my machines for the last few months. I used to always end up back on Mint but about a year ago that started crapping out on things. MX just works for me.
One thing about all distros (that I’ve tried anyway) lately, is that they don’t see the wifi card in my small Beelink PC. So it’s plugged in. Windows did see it, but I wiped that and installed Linux not long after I bought it. Had a couple of issues with KDE and it wouldn’t wake from sleep so back to XFCE. Not too heavily customised but it seems to be a keeper for my main machine - the Beelink. I have a Lenovo Ideapad that currently has Manjaro on - might try vanilla Debian on that.
The other machine is an ancient HP laptop - MX XFCE will be staying on that until it craps out for good.
Works great for me. I’m running mx23 after running mx19 for a few years.
I hope mx23 is better with updates, or making easier to update, as updates broke in mx19 not long after I first installed it. My only complaint. Otherwise great.
If it works for you go for it. I don’t hear much about it, and haven’t encountered anyone using it. I know it is one of few Debian based distros that is based on Debian itself and not Ubuntu, that is about all I know about it.
What attracts you to it? What are its selling points and what makes it different from Debian? Do you know anything about the developers.
Yeah the fact that OP calls systemd “new” or even knows what systemd is makes me doubt the authenticity of the original post (or more likely I just misinterpreted the top post).
I read it as an excited new Linux user who “Doesn’t know how to use Debian” and is enthusiastic about MX Linux. But there is no way in hell someone who doesn’t know how to use Debian would have a preference for alternative unit systems and definitely wouldn’t be calling systemd new
Maybe they don’t know how to use debian, because it uses systemd?
(Insert SpongeBob meme here:
“I like mx Linux”
“What does that mean?”
“It means he’s afraid of systemd”
“No it doesn’t”
“systemctl restart sshdjournalctl”
“Stop it, you’re scaring him”)
It’s great if you are experienced with Linux & its tools as it has a one stop suite for most things I’d give myself messing with at some point.
I could write out an entire review, but long story short as a former distrohopper of at least 60, this is my second favorite “I need a good desktop” distro.
I’m drawing a blank on it… makes me think of MK Linux, AKA MicroKernel Linux from the 90s, but I’m pretty sure they’re not related if this is Debian-based.
How can someone not know how to use Debian though? It was a pain when 1.0 was released, but these days installs just as easily as Mint….
Debian is far from difficult but it is certainly not as easy and beginner friendly to install as Ubuntu, Fedora, or Mint or any other mainstream distro (unless I’m using the wrong iso or something). Debian is a great intermediate distro, but I can’t feel comfortable recommending it to newbies until there is a proper beginner friendly guided install process.
I understand and respect the choice of some distros to not go the guided installer route and go with approaches that are more traditional, flexible, and better suited for more advanced users. And I don’t want to see these options go away. But I don’t recommend these distros to beginners unless they express interest in learning/DIY
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Debian is super easy to use, plus we have AI now at our fingertips which makes it even easier.
Will its really good but isn’t Linux mint de and especially MX is better than Debain for A few tools but i agree that they’re better than official Ubuntu and easier than vanilla arch
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd/
I’m pro-systemd so that’s an immediate pass from me.
Why would that make it a pass? Did you read the whole thing? It includes SystemD by default and an option to easily switch to it.
I admittedly missed the last part way down at the bottom about
systemd-sysv. I suppose that’s more acceptable… but still you’re going to be using a minority distro with a minority configuration … that rarely ends well.All it does is symlink init to systemd. That is very unlikely to ever cause a problem. It will function the same as using SystemD by default. This distro has been around and working well for quite a long time now.
… and I’m sure it still has a fraction of the users of more mainstream distros and a fraction of those people actually using the systemd init system.
A fraction, but still not an insignificant amount. Either way, all it does it change /sbin/init to be a symlink to systemd. That’s the same exact thing distros using systemd by default do.
how can someone be pro systemd lol. it’s been one of the cancers’ of the Linux desktop for years
It really hasn’t. Some people freaked out about it for weak reasons, similar to people freaking out about Wayland.
It’s made working across distros so much nicer. The fundamental service management, logging, etc is all just a bunch of common tools and patterns.
Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Majaro, etc didn’t switch to it because “it’s one of the cancer’s of the Linux desktop for years.”
Besides the Unix philosophy what problems do you have with systemd?
The theming is stunning
It depends on what you want to achieve. MX Linux is one of the less annoying Linux distributions (although I’m more into Void and Slackware, to be honest), but in terms of privacy (which is the very topic of this Lemmy community), it doesn’t do much better or worse than most other Linux distributions.
Huh? What special knowledge does using Debian require and what does MX do differently?
it’s basically Debain but more user friendly and it’s suitable for new Linux users
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Yeah but how? What is Debian lacking in user-friendliness that MX is making up for?
Yea, I’d like to know as well. I’ve used both Debian and MX. Other than the control panel thing MX has I can’t really think of any discernible differences.
been using it since the pandemic and it is all good. i started with xubuntu but had problems with R after an LTS update (in 2020 i think). looked for an easy to install xfce alternative - tried mx linux and havent had a problem since.
Been using it on all 3 of my machines for the last few months. I used to always end up back on Mint but about a year ago that started crapping out on things. MX just works for me. One thing about all distros (that I’ve tried anyway) lately, is that they don’t see the wifi card in my small Beelink PC. So it’s plugged in. Windows did see it, but I wiped that and installed Linux not long after I bought it. Had a couple of issues with KDE and it wouldn’t wake from sleep so back to XFCE. Not too heavily customised but it seems to be a keeper for my main machine - the Beelink. I have a Lenovo Ideapad that currently has Manjaro on - might try vanilla Debian on that. The other machine is an ancient HP laptop - MX XFCE will be staying on that until it craps out for good.
Thanks i hope you loved like me as well
It may be a good distro if someone doesn’t have time to configure debian.
Works great for me. I’m running mx23 after running mx19 for a few years.
I hope mx23 is better with updates, or making easier to update, as updates broke in mx19 not long after I first installed it. My only complaint. Otherwise great.
If it works for you go for it. I don’t hear much about it, and haven’t encountered anyone using it. I know it is one of few Debian based distros that is based on Debian itself and not Ubuntu, that is about all I know about it.
What attracts you to it? What are its selling points and what makes it different from Debian? Do you know anything about the developers.
Its tools is perfect and its easier than Debain plus its great to use without system d for some people who hates using the new unit system
“New”… anyway, there is a whole bunch of operating systems without systemd. Why Linux?
Yeah the fact that OP calls systemd “new” or even knows what systemd is makes me doubt the authenticity of the original post (or more likely I just misinterpreted the top post).
I read it as an excited new Linux user who “Doesn’t know how to use Debian” and is enthusiastic about MX Linux. But there is no way in hell someone who doesn’t know how to use Debian would have a preference for alternative unit systems and definitely wouldn’t be calling systemd new
Maybe they don’t know how to use debian, because it uses systemd?
(Insert SpongeBob meme here:
“I like mx Linux”
“What does that mean?”
“It means he’s afraid of systemd”
“No it doesn’t”
“
systemctl restart sshdjournalctl”“Stop it, you’re scaring him”)
It’s great if you are experienced with Linux & its tools as it has a one stop suite for most things I’d give myself messing with at some point.
I could write out an entire review, but long story short as a former distrohopper of at least 60, this is my second favorite “I need a good desktop” distro.
Well, what is your favourite then?
My dude, you can’t just drop a comment like this and then leave us hanging on what your first favourite is.
Fair enough lol, my number 1 is Linux Mint (Ubuntu) because compared to all of the other distros I’ve tried, it ACTUALLY “just worked”.
I’ve been using it as a daily driver for months now. It comes with many nice features, it’s easy to use and mess around with.
I’m drawing a blank on it… makes me think of MK Linux, AKA MicroKernel Linux from the 90s, but I’m pretty sure they’re not related if this is Debian-based.
How can someone not know how to use Debian though? It was a pain when 1.0 was released, but these days installs just as easily as Mint….
Debian is far from difficult but it is certainly not as easy and beginner friendly to install as Ubuntu, Fedora, or Mint or any other mainstream distro (unless I’m using the wrong iso or something). Debian is a great intermediate distro, but I can’t feel comfortable recommending it to newbies until there is a proper beginner friendly guided install process.
I understand and respect the choice of some distros to not go the guided installer route and go with approaches that are more traditional, flexible, and better suited for more advanced users. And I don’t want to see these options go away. But I don’t recommend these distros to beginners unless they express interest in learning/DIY