I know I could google it but I prefer to discuss it here:
There are many interesting discussions about antitrust, companies being jerks and corporats making the world worse.
I think it would be cool to have a couple „rogue“ lawyers band together and start making class action law suits against corporations and states for using/enabling anti consumer/anti competitive practices.
I have never been asked to participate in such lawsuits so I assume its not being optimally presented online so far.
Feel free to correct my impression here.
TL;DR: I think we need more ways to fight against anti consumer/privacy stuff in courts all over the world.
Louis himself stated multiple times that he is fighting r2r beacuse it affects his livelihood and that he’s a piece of shit. While that is an important fight nonetheless, that’s not privacy directly.
While those are all valid points and I have personally seen him say that on screen, it is the same ballpark. Right now, VPN providers are imo the ones who profit the most from privacy concerns. And express vpn alone makes a nice 600k a year (not a lot compared to google but not nothing either).
I‘m not sure what you‘re talking about. A vpn obviously is worth nothing on its own without people knowing what they‘re doing (or can’t do, like logging ingo any accounts such as google when using the vpn). Is that what you meant?
Absolutely possible that they often handle it. It was just the idea that we kind of need something like r/wallstreetbets but with lawyers&for commercial & legislative justice or something. I‘m thinking a little broader than privacy. More like if a sub decides that a topic has 10s of thousands of followers, it is brought before one or more courts with a kickstarter campaign and all. This could be the future of online governing. As in fighting for freedom -> organizing political campaigns -> turning the tide on fascists and autocrats politically and commercially and taking back control of the political landscape.
I like the idea. I’m not sure of the risk, because if you lose, then I think you have to pay the other parties legal fees.
If you started a Kickstarter and got good lawyers on board, I’d be willing to contribute. I would need to see the lawyers are well qualified though and preferably only paid if they win.
Thats understandable but this kind of one off has already been done afaik. I really think it needs to become a regular installment to begin changing things. Because legal fees and class actions don’t really sway google & co but if that became a thing, it would attract attention and that will cause problems. They give in at settlements because they want to bury cause and people asap.
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Fighting for data privacy doesn’t pay the bills.
Louis Rossmann would like a word (allthough its r2r in his case and barely touching privacy but it has been said about r2r as well)
Louis himself stated multiple times that he is fighting r2r beacuse it affects his livelihood and that he’s a piece of shit. While that is an important fight nonetheless, that’s not privacy directly.
While those are all valid points and I have personally seen him say that on screen, it is the same ballpark. Right now, VPN providers are imo the ones who profit the most from privacy concerns. And express vpn alone makes a nice 600k a year (not a lot compared to google but not nothing either).
Well to those who thinks VPN helps with privacy may buy a VPN but a VPN alone cannot protect your privacy.
I‘m not sure what you‘re talking about. A vpn obviously is worth nothing on its own without people knowing what they‘re doing (or can’t do, like logging ingo any accounts such as google when using the vpn). Is that what you meant?
Yeah
Anti trust is probably the wrong word. This indicates actions to breakup monopolies.
You’d want an attorney practicing in consumer privacy or data privacy. I believe they already exist.
My experience is that the government typically handles these cases, but I’m very likely wrong.
Absolutely possible that they often handle it. It was just the idea that we kind of need something like r/wallstreetbets but with lawyers&for commercial & legislative justice or something. I‘m thinking a little broader than privacy. More like if a sub decides that a topic has 10s of thousands of followers, it is brought before one or more courts with a kickstarter campaign and all. This could be the future of online governing. As in fighting for freedom -> organizing political campaigns -> turning the tide on fascists and autocrats politically and commercially and taking back control of the political landscape.
I like the idea. I’m not sure of the risk, because if you lose, then I think you have to pay the other parties legal fees.
If you started a Kickstarter and got good lawyers on board, I’d be willing to contribute. I would need to see the lawyers are well qualified though and preferably only paid if they win.
Thats understandable but this kind of one off has already been done afaik. I really think it needs to become a regular installment to begin changing things. Because legal fees and class actions don’t really sway google & co but if that became a thing, it would attract attention and that will cause problems. They give in at settlements because they want to bury cause and people asap.
I had a funny+weird idea where lawyers and lawyer students teach each other in order to file mass class action lawsuits
the benefit to this is that ordinary people could basically choose which ones to hop on/bandwagon
the potential con would be that this might draw a big target on whoever decides to do this
But it’s creative. I like it.