Great numbers, unfortunately most of those people are doing jack, and shit about it.

Example: I have a network security friend in his 40’s, who can’t be bothered with these issues because “I want the convenience”. I mean, this is right up his technical alley and he’s too lazy to do anything about it.

I have.

No story to it, don’t recall. Just killed the alias and moved on.

Syncthing.

Just sync your DCIM folders.

You can enable “Ignore Delete” on each phone if you want to ensure photos aren’t deleted on the source phone if the destination deletes it (or not).

I sync stuff to a PC at home, so phones don’t have to be on at the same time - they’ll always sync to the home PC.

Well, since a phone was handed to you, I’d expect you could do all sorts of shit, especially if you were prepared to have access to an unlocked phone.

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Err, wut? That they were using it at all is disappointing.

It was clearly a privacy nightmare from day one - that anyone in IT let it be used is a major failure on their part.

I even said as much to my peers at the time.

Try DivestOS for your app issue - it’s not as locked down as Graphene, but it’s really good.

I prefer it over Graphene on Pixel. It’s barebones Android with open-source apps for browser, file manager. It doesn’t have Google Services, you can install MicroG to the work profile if you need it for certain apps, and isolate them there.

I like to root it so I can run apps like AF Wall for managing IP Tables (the native firewall in Linux, which Android has).

If you add a DNS tool like ReThinkDNS, you get some really granular control over DNS resolution too.

At least with Graphene (and DivestOS, which is a fork of Lineage that can run on Pixel), you can isolate Google Services in the work profile, so if you MUST run apps that rely on Google, they can be run there. Plus the work profile can be turned off as-needed.

Someone else remarked how tracking wasn’t even possible 15 years ago - this makes a good conversation starter with your parents about security, privacy, the invasion of tech into our lives, etc.

YOU…being in your generation, have a great opportunity to make a difference with these issues. Look at as an opportunity to educateyour parents, to move forward to a better solution to address their concerns, rather than as a conflict.

For example, finding out why they want you to use tracking - what do they fear that this tool is attractive to them? (I find it baffling, I’m likely old enough to be a grandparent to you - my parents pushed us outside and said don’t come home till dark). So your parents could be My children - so my peers taught them to be this way.

If you have the gumption, you could read up the links posted here, and put together your thoughts about all this stuff, and have a sit-down with whichever parent would be likely to listen and ask them for help implementing what you’re trying to do.

Asking people for help is shorthand for getting their buy-in. It’s an amazing method - when people help come up with answers, they now have some ownership.

Also, the link in your lemmy bio is broken (vuran.cf)

I’d rather see them put a lot of effort into educating folks instead. If they’re well educated about how everything works, this issue, and others in the future, would be addressed.

Hell, printers had this tech in 1990

Hard to beat Signal for getting all the core elements of secure chat.

Can you run Simplex Chat?

May want to ask this in a Graphene community.

And you know that how?

Many moons ago, working with command-line compression tools, they definitely needed 2.5x+ working space to compress things.

Android needs some free space to function. 99% full? Hahah, you’re kidding, right? Nothing will work right when storage is that full, with pretty much any OS.

So the ends justifies the means?

I’m not sure I’m buyin into the ban concern.

It’s a concern, for sure, just really hard to see it implemented.

Look at piracy, torrenting, usenet, etc. So long as people can make encrypted connections, crypto will continue.

I think that governments can, at best, disrupt things. But given governments are a smaller body count than users, my money is on those dedicated users staying one step ahead of the hammer.

The question is, who’s soil are we laundering out of the money? 😁

Proton can’t even do spam right, at all.

It continually marks known addresses as spam, and doesn’t filter email addresses I’ve marked as spam.

Oh, and support says I have to login to the web version to manage anything…in the 21st century.

Frankly, after almost 2 years, I’ve given up on Proton. I thought I’d be recommending it to friends and family by now, but I simply can’t.

Get Foldersync.

It can automatically move the files there for you, instantly, or on a schedule.

That app has been for years a lifesaver for me to put files where I want them.

Uh, I did. Please enlighten me how anything in your post could nit be addressed by this.

I just use Syncthing to send my photos to my desktop at home. Automatically, instantly.

Specifically Syncthing-Fork, it moves all sync conditions into each sync job. https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android

There are clients for every OS. SyncTrayzor for Windows, Syncthing for Linux, Möbius for iOS.

What if you move the photos into the DCIM/Camera folder?

You’re trading your own feelings for your kid’s long-term well-being and learning. Many people would take the easy approach because your way is “scary”. Bravery is doing what needs to be done even if you’re afraid.

I’d call that right and proper. It’s what we adults are supposed to do. The number of times I’ve carried a crying infant to get them settled down while I could barely walk from excruciating back pain… It’s our job to take that on.

It’s funny, many of those parents who are tracking their kids would probably say “I sacrifice every day by working long hours so my kids have a warm, safe home” without realizing that giving them a long leash is also a sacrifice of parent’s (willingly take on worry) so kids grow up well.

My problem with these apps is twofold:

Primarily it means these companies know where your kids are, and they are building a dB of locations and other info of the kid (likely including online activity via other ops on the phone, etc), starting tracking early.

Second, it’s a poor way to manage trust between parents and kids. I refuse to use it, and refuse to help anyone I know use it, and explain to them why.

If you don’t trust your kids, then work on resolving that issue. And before anyone says “I trust my kids but not other people”, well, you gonna go everywhere with them to protect them from other people, or teach them how to navigate life, and learn to develop their own independent judgement?

There are self-hostable tracking systems. One is in my queue to setup for family/friends. It’ll be configured so anyone in a circle can use it, but these people trust each other. We intend it for arrival/departure notifications more than anything.

Please tell me you’re educating your family in privacy issues. This tracking circumstance is an excellent opportunity to approach it with a education mindset instead of the stereotypical kids/parents conflict.

Check out www.theprivacydad.com it’s a great starting point for parents who don’t know tech enough to realize what’s going on.

Can you change it in the app itself? If not, thats a problem.

I’ve never logged into the web app, and probably never will. Having it behave differently is poor design.