Can we talk about how stupid the way android handles VPNs and network adapters? Why on earth would you have to use VPN feature to use Zerotier?

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Actually, the intended use of work profile is for… Work. You don’t want the corporate VPN to be The phone-wide VPN - do you?

The design is logical. Since we are all misusing it, I think it would be useful to be able to toggle a “share VPN” switch.

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Does it use the samd Private DNS?

@Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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Yes, Private DNS carries over between profiles in my testing, just VPN that doesn’t

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In stock Android, VPN settings only apply per user per profile. So if you have multiple users running they have different VPN settings.

Work profiles don’t share VPN

User accounts don’t share VPN

Hotspot doesn’t share VPN

Teathering doesn’t share VPN

A hot spot also doesn’t share the same VPN connection.

I thought you could do that through the setting “Allow client to use VPNs” in Network & internet -> Hotspot and tethering settings

@jet@hackertalks.com
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This sounds like CalyxOS

Indeed it is. Is this not typical?

@jet@hackertalks.com
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https://hackertalks.com/comment/260096

It is very much not typical

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Ok thanks. I’ve been using CalyxOS for a while and l’m not caught up with “regular” Android. But if this features are so usefull why aren’t they merged to the AOSP (Android open source project)

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The VPN sharing choice is at least logical. You have to make a decision when designing a system how your engineer the network stack. And if you say every profile and every user gets equal access to the network stack. Then you get this result.

But the feature of sharing VPN access is also useful. So it really just depends on what choice you made earlier. I don’t think this is necessarily evil.

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But if this features are so usefull why aren’t they merged to the AOSP

Me every time I realize the ability to completely block network usage for an app is not Stock Android

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It’s moments like these that make me realize oh Android is built primarily as a advertisement tool

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I wasn’t aware that you could do that on regular android. I can’t confirm it because i’m using grapheneos, and I know it doesn’t have that setting.

It is on my phone on CalyxOS. I’m not sure about other operating systems. It could be that is not.I did’t expect so much difference in functiinality since Calyx is based on AOSP.

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Yep, seems like it acts like another device. Different user. Would love to know if there is a solution aside from another vpn instance inside the work profile.

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