The harm is that it’s installed. There is no reason for doing this. It can be done on demand in one second if the user subscribes to their VPN.
It also shows once once again that they keep on doing their shady shit and still cannot be trusted (or at least that they are a bunch of incompetent developers).
I mean, yes, it could’ve been differently, and as I understand it they’re going to. But as a user, how is your life worse with this than without this? What’s the impact of something being installed but not running?
Firefox also installs telemetry and data reporting functions like most browsers, also libraries like libwebp, which are prone to critical vulnerabilities (as seen), encryption systems like Encrypted Client Hello, and software like Pocket, which some users never use, but it’s still there.
Any browser will install many features that probably won’t be used. Saying that a browser that installs a feature like Tor or VPN (which aren’t even hidden, Brave publicly present those features) is automatically bad doesn’t sound reasonable to me.
The point I’m making is that it’s not like Brave installed the VPN in secret, hidden away to it’s own devices. The code is there and a service is installed, sure, but it’s dormant until the user activates it.
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The harm is that it’s installed. There is no reason for doing this. It can be done on demand in one second if the user subscribes to their VPN.
It also shows once once again that they keep on doing their shady shit and still cannot be trusted (or at least that they are a bunch of incompetent developers).
I mean, yes, it could’ve been differently, and as I understand it they’re going to. But as a user, how is your life worse with this than without this? What’s the impact of something being installed but not running?
You know Firefox installs a bunch of stuff by default as well, right?
They don’t want to hear that.
Such as?
Firefox also installs telemetry and data reporting functions like most browsers, also libraries like libwebp, which are prone to critical vulnerabilities (as seen), encryption systems like Encrypted Client Hello, and software like Pocket, which some users never use, but it’s still there.
Any browser will install many features that probably won’t be used. Saying that a browser that installs a feature like Tor or VPN (which aren’t even hidden, Brave publicly present those features) is automatically bad doesn’t sound reasonable to me.
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The point I’m making is that it’s not like Brave installed the VPN in secret, hidden away to it’s own devices. The code is there and a service is installed, sure, but it’s dormant until the user activates it.
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I guess they place it in the installer to make it easier to update? Note, I never used Brave in my life, so I don’t really know how it works.
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