Lol sorry, I’m probably not explaining it properly.

• Corporations are required (by law in a lot of cases) to protect certain information
• Corporations also have an interest to ensure their own property isn’t misused or abused

Corporations need a way to achieve those two points. Normally this is done by some sort of MITM corporate proxy and maybe some invasive spyware-like software on the machine itself.

Some people absolutely abuse this power and would have no problem reading your personal e-mail, or watching your desktop screen all day. I agree that this shouldn’t be a thing and they shouldn’t have access without some sort of strict approval process.

But, how is a corporation going to prove that you did or did not send a secure/private document on your work device through your personal e-mail? If you are using your personal email, it won’t go through the corporate mail server so they have to rely on either MITM proxies and logs, or something locally on the device. The alternative (no monitoring at all) would lead to situations where data is compromised and the company has no idea why or how, if they even are aware of it at all.

Similarly what if an employee uses their personal email to accidentally download a virus and that virus starts uploading all of the files on the device to a server somewhere? Without any sort of monitoring, that event could go undetected.

If there’s an alternative, I’d love to hear about it. But I’ll probably always stick to keeping work and personal data separate.

We need laws to make them not to

That would conflict with laws that protect your PII/PHI. Are you okay with a doctor saving your health information onto their personal cell phone? Or a bank teller with access to move money between accounts able to do so from their cell phone at a bar while drunk? Or a plastic surgeon posting photos of their patients to social media without their consent?

Corporations suck, but people also suck. Even if there’s no malice intended, the average person is bad at personal security and can’t really be trusted to protect data that the corporation is legally responsible for protecting.

We should not forfeit our right to privacy

My point from before was that if you want privacy, don’t use a device that you don’t own. If you’re doing something not work related, use your own device and don’t use the corporate wifi.

If you want privacy, don’t use a work device for personal stuff and don’t use a personal device for work stuff. Corporations are always going to want to monitor their own equipment for data exfil, etc, I don’t think any laws are going to tell them not to.

Self hosted nextcloud works great for me. There have been a lot of improvements over the last few years, handling conflicts doesn’t feel as clunky and I don’t really run into as many unless I’m storing git repos in my NC directory.

It’s been a few years but Joplin always felt clunky to me, and sync was extremely slow. I’m not sure if it even had plugin support when I tried it last.

Trilium does actually have plugin support it’s just not as discoverable imo. You can create backend scripts and also frontend scripts that could act like a new editor.

There aren’t a ton of public ones, but check out https://github.com/Nriver/awesome-trilium for a few examples if you’re interested.

For anyone looking for an alternative, I really like Trilium so far. It’s completely open source and the main dev and community seem great.

The performance is way better for me than SN. SN couldn’t handle a large number of notes very well when I tested it last.

The only downside imo is there’s no real mobile client, but the mobile web interface is still pretty good and usable.

I wouldn’t recommend a normal bridged room, just a puppet bridge. So it’d basically be the bridge using your own account and pretending to be a real client, not trying to bridge a matrix room with a discord channel.

Puppet bridges are kind of like bitlbee if youre familiar with it, but for matrix

I haven’t used it personally, but there is a discord matrix bridge. You wouldn’t get some of the fancy features like voice, but it might be alright for text only.

Unless you can convince the server mods to bridge directly, you’d probably want a puppet bridge.

https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/discord/

Is getting a phone from work specifically for work an option? It’s always a pretty bad idea imo to mix work and personal stuff on the same device

In case you or OP uses nextcloud, the nextcloud mobile app has the option to backup contacts automatically too

The rest of the article reads the same. They even said what they were repeating is probably FUD and made zero effort to investigate.

It looks interesting to me, but as far as I can tell they haven’t announced their monetization model yet. I don’t know if they’ll suddenly decide something like p2p sync is no longer free.

I plan on at least testing it out though.

Thanks so much for the detailed response! I didn’t realize livesync handled conflicts better, that’s almost enough by itself to make the switch.

I think originally I was mostly hesitant to try it because I didn’t want to expose a public couchdb, but it’s actually not that big of a deal now that I think about it, especially if it’s using end to end encryption.

I have a few vaults that I share with others and multiple people can work on the same file simultaneously with no issues at all.

Do you just share the entire vault? I’m assuming each person you share with would just end up using the same credentials? I tried sharing a vault with my partner before using remotely-save+nextcloud and it was kind of clunky, we ended up just using a shared folder and let nextcloud desktop app sync it instead. It doesn’t help for mobile though.

Thanks for sharing your config too, I’ll probably try setting it up with a test vault this week and see if I run into any issues with it

I’m currently using Remember the Milk as my primary tasks/reminders. It isn’t updated with big features very often, and has been around for a long time. I’m looking for a new similar solution that is self-hosted though. Currently I’m leaning towards Kanboard for bigger “projects”, but my alternative to rtm so far is just a bunch of markdown checklists in Obsidian.

Thanks! I’m assuming you meant tasks.org? It looks interesting, I’ll give it a try. I knew etesync could be used to sync calendar/contacts, but didn’t really think about tasks and notes too.

Etenotes looks like it might be too simple for me, but I have been looking for a new task/todo list.

I also saw etebase is its own thing, but it looks pretty interesting too and I’ll keep it in mind for future projects.

Have you had any issues with the self-hosted livesync plugin? I currently use the “remotely save” plugin and sync to a nextcloud instance, but I thought about trying the livesync plugin instead. I just wasn’t sure if it was worth spinning up a couchdb instance just for that.

Etesync is basically caldav/etc right? What are you syncing it to on your devices?