still hella confused as to why self-proclaimed privacy advocates—even teams like @privacyguides—are pushing @element so hard despite the data collection & sharing practices, the loosey-goosey metadata usage, and the fact that they host on AWS.
“Every message and file gets sent separately to every member in the group”
That seems fine for small groups, but for the typical Element crowd of large groups, I don’t think that would go over well. If you send a 10MB file in a 2000-person chat, you’d be uploading 20GB of data…
I looked at SimpleX a little while ago… and it was looking fine… until I read that they list ‘groups’ in some kind of directory… like chat rooms I imagine. Deal breaker for me.
@whale
That’s what I read after installing the app (on a trash device).
Not that I’m using it for anything nefarious, but if you’re going to claim 100% privacy, I think offering ‘discovery’ services for popular groups goes very much against that.
In all fairness, I removed it shortly after discovering that… so maybe other users who have stuck around can clarify… I dont mind admitting I read that incorrectly.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !privacyguides@lemmy.one
In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.
This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.
You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:
Check out our website at privacyguides.org before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!
Want to get involved? The website is open-source on GitHub, and your help would be appreciated!
This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be verified here. Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.
Moderation Rules:
We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.
No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.
Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be pre-approved by the mod team.
Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.
Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.
News posts must be related to privacy and security, and your post title must match the article headline exactly. Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.
Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.
No help vampires: This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.
No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with evidence.
Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on privacyguides.org. See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.
General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.
Oh nice! Although, one issue from their website:
“Every message and file gets sent separately to every member in the group”
That seems fine for small groups, but for the typical Element crowd of large groups, I don’t think that would go over well. If you send a 10MB file in a 2000-person chat, you’d be uploading 20GB of data…
deleted by creator
Revolt is certainly better than Discord’s privacy, but since it doesn’t yet have E2EE, it doesn’t seem like very privacy-focused software
deleted by creator
@whale @sp6
I looked at SimpleX a little while ago… and it was looking fine… until I read that they list ‘groups’ in some kind of directory… like chat rooms I imagine. Deal breaker for me.
deleted by creator
@whale
That’s what I read after installing the app (on a trash device).
Not that I’m using it for anything nefarious, but if you’re going to claim 100% privacy, I think offering ‘discovery’ services for popular groups goes very much against that.
In all fairness, I removed it shortly after discovering that… so maybe other users who have stuck around can clarify… I dont mind admitting I read that incorrectly.
deleted by creator
@whale
Fair enough.
When I read it, it sounded like popular groups would be listed… sort of like the ‘trending’ feeatures on social networks and stuff…
If I was wrong, I stand corrected… Thanks