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Oh nice! Although, one issue from their website:

“Every message and file gets sent separately to every member in the group”

That seems fine for small groups, but for the typical Element crowd of large groups, I don’t think that would go over well. If you send a 10MB file in a 2000-person chat, you’d be uploading 20GB of data…


Just a quick glance at all of those:

-Briar, Tox, and Cwtch don’t have iOS clients

-SimpleX doesn’t have a desktop GUI has issues with big groups (see comment below)

-Session has a 100-person group chat limit

-Syphon’s own github states they are “still in alpha and we do not recommend using it where proven and independently verified security is required.” Plus, they haven’t had a release in over a year, so I’m not sure it’s still maintained.

Element (or most Matrix clients) don’t have any of those issues. Like I said, it’s not perfect, but I see why it’s recommended. All decent alternatives have significant downsides


Element isn’t perfect, but what’s a better alternative? A giant Signal group would be a horrible idea, since everyone’s phone numbers would be exposed to the other members (plus there’s a 150 group member limit), and Discord is obviously much worse than Element (from a privacy perspective).