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Lawyers love that trick.

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There’s no trick to it. If you don’t agree with the terms of service, feel free to not use the product. There’s dozens of other free web browsers out there if you think you can find a better one.

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This is the most toxic take that literally empowers companies to do whatever the fuck they want. Don’t want to buy gas here, go drive 200 kms to another one there’s plenty of gas stations. Drive there only to see that company doing the exact same thing. Because as a company, why wouldn’t you?

You can’t kill the myth that competition handles itself and that if a company does a dick move, another company won’t and will get all the sales and traffic. That doesn’t happen. Outside of monopolies and basic price fixing, competitors have long realized that while they aren’t friends with each other, you are all their collective enemy. Waging war against you is all in their collective interests.

All that goes without saying that privacy at all its levels should always be a fundamental human right and not a “feature.” We need to be building on top of that model, not plugging privacy in when it suits them.

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Yes, please continue to shout about how the nonprofit company that gives you open source software for free is ruining your life by making a feature of a product that you are not obligated to use in the first place opt out instead of opt in lol

ultratiem
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Talk about being too dumb to argue with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

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Read your own link, dipshit.

The Mozilla Foundation will ultimately control the activities of the Mozilla Corporation and will retain its 100 percent ownership of the new subsidiary. Any profits made by the Mozilla Corporation will be invested back into the Mozilla project. There will be no shareholders, no stock options will be issued and no dividends will be paid. The Mozilla Corporation will not be floating on the stock market and it will be impossible for any company to take over or buy a stake in the subsidiary. The Mozilla Foundation will continue to own the Mozilla trademarks and other intellectual property and will license them to the Mozilla Corporation. The Foundation will also continue to govern the source code repository and control who is allowed to check in.[7]

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Any other contract in everyday life would be invalid under these terms; consent must be affirmative and informed. “I have read and accept the terms” is a crude lie that should be illegal but is tolerated for convenience, and which allows to justify all kinds of abuses.

The mozilla case is even worse, because they’ve even bragged about how they respect affirmative consent by asking their users if they allow telemetry (they’ve never really fully complied), and about being respectful of privacy in general. They deserve to be criticized for it, and that’s what people are doing here, but your responses of “if you don’t like it go away, the competition is worse” only legitimizes bad behavior.

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It’s truly amazing how much the digital world gets away with.

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Ok, so stop using their product.

Pussista
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Way to show you have zero reading comprehension skills lol

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I comprehended it just fine, doesn’t change the fact that yes, it really is that simple. If you don’t like what a company is doing, don’t use their products. It’s not “legitimizing bad behavior”, it’s communicating with the company in the only language that a company that isn’t charging you for their product could possibly understand: market share. Nobody at Mozilla gives a shit about what some tiny niche fraction of their userbase is bitching about on Lemmy, they give a shit about whether or not they’re getting stomped into the dirt by chrome.

You guys are just having a giant, meaningless circlejerk.

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