Anonymity is an aspect of privacy. Arguably, it is even expected. Proton pat themselves on the back about privacy without being honest about what that includes. They even have a blog post victim-blaming when their “privacy” marketing is shown to be false.
Admittedly, I don’t like Proton. They were far too quick to try to jump in bed with the Chinese Communist Party when Google was kicked out. It left a bad taste. I’ve seen absolutely nothing in the years since to make me question that position.
@CaptObvious@literature.cafeanonymity can definitely be an aspect of privacy but privacy ≠ anonymity. Proton explicitly states this. They arnt going to disobey law, which they also state. I don’t see what the issue is here? They obeyed the law and the user made a mistake on there end. Proton didn’t do anything wrong or tricky
Fair question. For everyday, run-of-the-mill, don’t-care-who-sees-it, a postcard is fine; I have a Gmail account for those. For anything more sensitive, I have a couple of Tuta accounts. If it’s truly confidential, I prefer to just say it in person.
Yeah, that’s one of the complaints I have about them. Of course, if I need PGP, I prefer to encrypt an attachment myself offline and just send that, so it’s not a dealbreaker in my case.
Out of curiosity, and if you don’t mind my asking, which provider do you use?
@CaptObvious I currently use proton as my main provider. I still have a gmail and iCloud as well as some accounts haven’t been transferred over yet, but those pretty much just get used for 2fa codes until I switch them
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Anonymity is an aspect of privacy. Arguably, it is even expected. Proton pat themselves on the back about privacy without being honest about what that includes. They even have a blog post victim-blaming when their “privacy” marketing is shown to be false.
Admittedly, I don’t like Proton. They were far too quick to try to jump in bed with the Chinese Communist Party when Google was kicked out. It left a bad taste. I’ve seen absolutely nothing in the years since to make me question that position.
@CaptObvious@literature.cafeanonymity can definitely be an aspect of privacy but privacy ≠ anonymity. Proton explicitly states this. They arnt going to disobey law, which they also state. I don’t see what the issue is here? They obeyed the law and the user made a mistake on there end. Proton didn’t do anything wrong or tricky
For the second time conversing with a Proton apologist, we will simply have to agree to disagree.
@CaptObvious fair enough. What email provider do you use? Just curious :)
Fair question. For everyday, run-of-the-mill, don’t-care-who-sees-it, a postcard is fine; I have a Gmail account for those. For anything more sensitive, I have a couple of Tuta accounts. If it’s truly confidential, I prefer to just say it in person.
@CaptObvious that’s a valid setup. I was thinking about tuta but no pgp :)
Yeah, that’s one of the complaints I have about them. Of course, if I need PGP, I prefer to encrypt an attachment myself offline and just send that, so it’s not a dealbreaker in my case.
Out of curiosity, and if you don’t mind my asking, which provider do you use?
@CaptObvious I currently use proton as my main provider. I still have a gmail and iCloud as well as some accounts haven’t been transferred over yet, but those pretty much just get used for 2fa codes until I switch them