Storing 2FA codes is just the beginning. Bitwarden aims to add defense in depth to authentication.
Bitwarden Authenticator is a standalone app that is available for everyone, even non-Bitwarden customers.
In its current release, Bitwarden Authenticator generates time-based one-time passwords (TOTP) for users who want to add an extra layer of 2FA security to their logins.
There is a comprehensive roadmap planned with additional functionality.
The point of 2FA/MFA is that you need two separate things in order to gain access. By having them both be the same then suddenly the attacker only needs to get one factor. Sure, it’s probably low risk, but it’s still risk.
Considering a password manager that also stores your second factor to be 2FA, assuming that it requires two factors to authenticate with on its own, is basically the same thing as considering logging into a site via SSO that itself requires two factors to be 2FA.
It’s also the same as considering a hardware security key with a PIN-protected Passkey to be 2FA.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
“Basically then it degrades to a very strong password that can’t easily be phished.”
I’m disagreeing with this, in that you are still (hopefully) using 2FA with your vault. Therefore whatever your accessing in that vault whether its a TOTP token or a password is still protected by MFA and not just a “very strong password”.
Putting a TOTP token inside a vault protected by a strong password and another form of authentication is no less secure then having it be separate from the vault.
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The point of 2FA/MFA is that you need two separate things in order to gain access. By having them both be the same then suddenly the attacker only needs to get one factor. Sure, it’s probably low risk, but it’s still risk.
Considering a password manager that also stores your second factor to be 2FA, assuming that it requires two factors to authenticate with on its own, is basically the same thing as considering logging into a site via SSO that itself requires two factors to be 2FA.
It’s also the same as considering a hardware security key with a PIN-protected Passkey to be 2FA.
Yes but you would still have 2FA.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
Yes but you would still have 2FA.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
Basically then it degrades to a very strong password that can’t easily be phished.
Which is still pretty good in my book, but not as good as a second device.
Not really. You still should be using MFA to access the vault itself before you can even get to the Token.
Yeah, of course. A very strong password that can’t easily be fished that is stored in Bitwarden. I thought that was implied.
“Basically then it degrades to a very strong password that can’t easily be phished.”
I’m disagreeing with this, in that you are still (hopefully) using 2FA with your vault. Therefore whatever your accessing in that vault whether its a TOTP token or a password is still protected by MFA and not just a “very strong password”.
Putting a TOTP token inside a vault protected by a strong password and another form of authentication is no less secure then having it be separate from the vault.
Now, this is where I get the impression you are not listening to me and are just arguing for arguing’s sake.
I’m getting off this ride.
Lol OK. Seems like its to much for you to consider you poorly communicated your point anyway.
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