When you say things like, “Proton doesn’t disclose any hosting company,” after going on about Dropbox being out of the norm because they do, you are in fact specifically saying “Dropbox good, Proton bad.” You haven’t corrected anything, just rushed to the defense of your preferred company. And if you prefer Dropbox over Proton, that’s fine. There are plenty of people who simply don’t care about online privacy or see the trade offs for giving their data away as a fair price for “free” services. That said, there’s nothing in that Proton blog post that’s actually wrong, as far as I can see.
Just to clarify, I’m self-hosting. I’m using neither Proton nor Dropbox.
However, I’m a privacy pro, and I read Privacy Policies on a daily basis (ok… weekly basis).
The US companies recently moved to disclose ALL the providers they are using (including for controller activities) where European companies still hide this information (and disclose only the providers used to deliver the service).
For a very concrete example, Salesforces is mentionned by Dropbox where Proton is silent about the crm they use.
On this specific aspect, the USA are ahead of EU.
That’s all I meant.
If you want to read it as “give your data to the USA”, feel free, but that’s not what I said.
The clarification is appreciated, but I didn’t say anything about giving data to the USA. I was talking specifically in the context of free vs paid services and in this case, if one opts for the free tier of Dropbox, one is giving Dropbox and all those other companies listed access to one’s info.
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I was not saying “Dropbox good” or “Proton bad”, just correcting a few things about the privacy policy in itself and what it means.
When you say things like, “Proton doesn’t disclose any hosting company,” after going on about Dropbox being out of the norm because they do, you are in fact specifically saying “Dropbox good, Proton bad.” You haven’t corrected anything, just rushed to the defense of your preferred company. And if you prefer Dropbox over Proton, that’s fine. There are plenty of people who simply don’t care about online privacy or see the trade offs for giving their data away as a fair price for “free” services. That said, there’s nothing in that Proton blog post that’s actually wrong, as far as I can see.
Just to clarify, I’m self-hosting. I’m using neither Proton nor Dropbox.
However, I’m a privacy pro, and I read Privacy Policies on a daily basis (ok… weekly basis).
The US companies recently moved to disclose ALL the providers they are using (including for controller activities) where European companies still hide this information (and disclose only the providers used to deliver the service). For a very concrete example, Salesforces is mentionned by Dropbox where Proton is silent about the crm they use.
On this specific aspect, the USA are ahead of EU.
That’s all I meant.
If you want to read it as “give your data to the USA”, feel free, but that’s not what I said.
The clarification is appreciated, but I didn’t say anything about giving data to the USA. I was talking specifically in the context of free vs paid services and in this case, if one opts for the free tier of Dropbox, one is giving Dropbox and all those other companies listed access to one’s info.