I don’t think they lost touch. They said they wanted to do something like privacy.com for credit card aliases, and I think crypto currencies are a way for them to get the infrastructure up and running without having to deal with the legal and expensive licensing stuff that comes with handling real credit cards

• 19.99/month for 1 month
• 14.99/month for a year (179.88 total)
• 11.99/month for 2 years (287.76 total)

They said in the Reddit post that further down the road they want to implement something like Google wallet or apple pay, that would allow for credit card aliases. I think the Bitcoin solution is the one they chose to build a new platform/foundation but without all the regulation and partnerships hassle of making it for traditional payment systems.

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I did not look at the source code but I assume this uses something like webllm, which uses webgpu that Firefox currently doesn’t support as much as chromium

Love proton pass, I think it’s their best product and it’s their fastest improving one too. It doesn’t have the drawbacks of their other products like speed or wonky mobile apps. It’s their only product to have an iPad app as well. Development speed is also way faster than their other products. I don’t know what’s different internally between pass and their other services, but i think pass has a smaller team cracked devs, so maybe that helps

Yeah thats pretty weird, maybe this is related to identities in proton pass? But they are not released yet

That’s electron for you!

Great! I love seeing Linux get system level auth with PAM

Checkmate

How is proton being dishonest here? I’d like to read your point. They never pitched themselves as a way to protect yourself from the law, they always clearly said they are a confidential email provider, meaning they don’t know what you are sending and receiving. It works like a doctor meeting, the information is very confidential, but not anonymous, it is tied to you even though nobody except authorized parties should be able to access this info.

The Proton Pass team are really pushing out updates recently, love to see it!

Their platform is less secure because apple implemented side loading in a half assed way just so they can say that they comply. Computers and android phones have been doing this since forever without any major issues. I believe if the security of your platform relies on only installing apps from a single “trusted” source (that has an incentive to make money), then it’s not secure.

It’s a bit of a bummer that it doesn’t support catch-all domains and simplelogin aliases

I do it more with calendar and drive, both squares of similar sizes

Yeah I noticed this as well, they are too similar and sometimes I open the wrong one by accident

I would not 100% take their word for the autofill part, it’s worked great for most sites that ive been on, the problematic ones being the ones that have separate pages for username/email and password. Some Android apps are also kind of clunky, but I don’t think this is Proton’s fault, since it also happened on Bitwarden, so I think it is the other app’s fault for not using the autofill APIs. Can’t say for iOS

From the screenshots only: is the dislike and like count being floats intentional?

Incoming Passkey support is very cool, and I think it will be coming relatively soon as most of the activity on GitHub recently has targeted passkey support. Very cool I love passkeys!

I use Linux so my client of choice is Dino. If you are on Windows, I think there is Gajim that is recommended by JMP, and it is cross-platform, not windows or linux exclusive like Dino. This should also be of help: https://wiki.soprani.ca/ClientComparison

Yes, you can port out your jmp number, but it takes slightly longer than a regular port out/port in to the new provider because it is considered a landline. When I ported out of jmp, my number was accepted as a verification method, meaning it is no longer labeled as a VoIP number

I loved every second of using it. So much cheaper and you can call and text from everywhere in the world as long as you have an internet connection. Being able to make calls on the desktop with a desktop xmpp client is great also. if you need help, they have a very reactive support and they also gave a chat room where the employees are very active. I used for about two years and then I stopped because some services require a physical SIM card phone number (they reject VoIP ones), and I could finally find a cheap enough plan to justify not using JMP anymore.

Guys… That’s very clearly a bug. It’s the little thing they would show to new users, and they probably added it because they saw an influx of new users since they announced larger storage for free plans. It’s an onboarding thing that is displayed to everyone by accident, i dont get the outrage. Plus you can just click the “x” button and it goes away

I used Tutanota a few years ago, they have a bit less features and their apps are kind of janky/old feeling, but they have slightly better security because of reasons I forget (iirc something about encrypting the email subject, not sure though)

They basically said fuck you to anyone who got a yearly plan on Black Friday

I got a 42% score, but I really feel that this is because it does not take into account the fact that people have different threat models. I don’t really care that Meta has a photo of my coffee that I shared to my friends. Pretty much my only criteria for me when sending stuff on unsecured chats is if the app got hacked, would I be ashamed if it got public.

Twitch would like to have a word with you, the ads are still shown even with the latest ublock filters. Google absolutely can shove ads into your face that your ad blocker won’t be able to remove, they just don’t do it for now

I quite like it, though I wouldnt share anything private using it as I think they can store any messages that goes through the linked services, and as another comment mentionned, if they ever get bought out, they could decide this data is theirs and to do bad stuff with it

I prefer ProtonMail for a few reasons:

• I get more from my subscription, 500GB of drive, fast VPN, email, password manager, calendar, SimpleLogin
• I like the UI much more, its a lot more modern, the mobile apps are leagues better (they are actual native apps, not a web app wrapper)
• the services are arguably more feature rich
• the security that they will be around for longer than tutanota, proton has over 100M users, this leads me to think they will be more sustainable

I got mine for 10$ per key during a CloudFlare sale, and I really like them. Very durable, ive had mine for 6 or 9 months idk, and not a scratch can be seen on the plastic. The key is very convenient to use too, but I don’t think its worth it at about 50$. I would wait and see if there is some sort of sale soon or during the black friday. Also check out their competitors as they are all compatible