still hella confused as to why self-proclaimed privacy advocates—even teams like @privacyguides—are pushing @element so hard despite the data collection & sharing practices, the loosey-goosey metadata usage, and the fact that they host on AWS.

xmpp with omemo hasn’t been mentioned but I would be perfectly happy if we all switched to that

@commie ya same. i didn’t mention it bc it seems like there was an exodus from XMPP to Matrix for some reason

matrix is VC funded and therefore has a big marketing budget. the XMPP foundation is community maintained and XMPP itself is a public domain standard, so there are not such interests nor capitals investing in it to make promotion.

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There hasn’t, it’s just that matrix gets a lot of publicity and every other day someone falsely claims the death of XMPP or that Google killed it.

i agree with the analysis about the ledger being copied across servers. it seems wildly inefficient and like a major security concern. i actually deleted an account on a FRIEND’s server because i joined some pretty-active public channels on onther servers and they found that i was using some not-insignificant portion of their server resources just to log channels i would pop into on occasion.

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