Hi 👋 just shared the site with one of my buddies and he told me he doesn’t care much about it because there’s no way you’ll be 100% privacy enforced since you’re using an iPhone and sharing your location, name, birthdate , personal files, photos.

I’ve to say this gets to me but on the other side I’m also respectful of everyone‘s opinion because after all, this is what makes us special

How are you handling these circumstances usually, do you say something?

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I mean the entire thing is “Google software” so I’m not sure what you mean. It strips it of everything that calls Google’s servers. It has optional sandboxed Google Play services.

You don’t need the Google Play Store, you can install all of those apps with Aurora Store.

@River_Tahm@lemmy.today
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I think the point is you’re exaggerating how easy it is for the average person to install and use something like Graphene - people are arguing it’s less that Google allows it and more that white hats have forced it and I don’t think that’s an unfair statement. Like - I’m techy, own a phone running Graphene, and will have to look into the Aurora store - hadn’t heard of it before this!

Apple seems to be pretty privacy forward at the moment and it’s true that they sell hardware more so than software, and WAY moreso than user data. For people who can’t figure out something like Graphene, Apple is certainly a better choice than Googled Android. And I think that’s valuable to be able to tell people in this day and age even if Graphene would be best overall

Ulrich
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I think the point is you’re exaggerating how easy it is for the average person to install and use something like Graphene

I’m not. It really is that easy.

But the fact that it’s easy isn’t the point. The point is that you have that choice. That is not a choice you’re allowed with Apple.

Apple is certainly a better choice than Googled Android. And I think that’s valuable to be able to tell people

I did tell them that, in the parent comment of this thread.

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As a GrapheneOS user, and someone who hates apple and would rather not have a phone than bend to apple, and while i agree with most of what you said, i would not expect the majority of the users to be able to install graphene. I don’t personally know anyone i would expect to be able to do by themselves. It’s easy for you. It wasn’t super easy for me, it would be difficult for most people.

Ulrich
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the fact that it’s easy isn’t the point. The point is that you have that choice.

@guismo@aussie.zone
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I agree. It’s just that you said it’s easy.

Maybe you were referring to unlocking the phone, which is really easy on stock android if you know how.

The day we don’t have the choice anymore is the day i stop using android. Or smart phones at all if the alternative is apple.

Ulrich
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Well. Agree to disagree. You literally just plug it in and push buttons in the browser. It’s that simple.

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Ah, I didn’t do it that way… I think. I can’t remember. I certainly remember not wanting to because I don’t trust that way. Also I use firefox and I doubted it would work. I don’t know.

Ulrich
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Ah, I didn’t do it that way… I think.

Okay, but you can.

Also I use firefox and I doubted it would work.

It doesn’t, but you can’t use Chrome (or any other Chromium browser) for 5 minutes?

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