So. I tried bitwarden for a while with 2fa. I absolutely did not realize that if you lose your 2fa you are done in that service. So yeah. Time to rebuild.

I’m attempting to go all in on proton stuff ATM. Drive, email, vpn and password manager.

What’s the easiest way to set everything up in a way that the whole system is safe and that minimizes the chance of me locking myself out ?

Stuff like. Do I bother with 2fa? What are yubikeys. Are these the answer? Do I 2fa all.accounts other than the protonmail one ?

Long single use case passwords or memorizable ones ?

Do I do throwaway emails or everything signs up to my main one ?

Sorry if I overloaded questions. But id love go get insight from people with more experience.

Edit. And oh. Threat model.

Id love yo not lose accounts if someone physically steals one of my devices.

I’d love to not get hsckdd online by someone random that is not targeting me specifically

And in broad strokes. I’d like to keep all my accounts as private as possible from private companies and governments. But im flexible on this one if its too much hassle.

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I’m really concerned about putting a 2fa on a pw managed and locking myself out of it again.

Use a 2fa authenticator app, Raivo if you are on iOS, Aegis if you are on Android. They both allow you to create backups of the tokens. And then also keep a safe backup of the recovery codes that are given to you after you complete the 2fa.

It’s better to be locked out of your password manager and just reset your password for all your accounts, than to have every single one of your accounts get hacked and possibly NEVER get them back.

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Be careful with the backups though, there’s a good chance you have 2FA enabled on your Google drive

So basically if you lose your phone you can’t access your 2FA app, if you can’t access your 2FA you can’t open your Google Drive, which means you can’t ever get the backup

Other than disabling 2FA I’m not really sure on the best approach to get around this

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