Proton and the end-to-end encrypted note-taking app Standard Notes are joining forces. We’ve long been admirers and are excited to welcome Mo and his team.
I understand the need for Standard Notes to make money, but I believe that offering the convenience and security of hosting is a good way to do this, not by selling subscriptions for self-hosted users to access extensions that are mostly wrappers for someone else’s work. Especially the editors:
(This is also probably why so many Standard Notes editors look out of place next to each other; they were made by totally different people at different times.)
I don’t entirely disagree… But, if they build the entire platform and you can just self host and use someone else’s editors inside their platform, they’re not making any money and the fact that they made their code open source and overly generous is ultimately probably a major factor in that.
Ultimately you may be about to use someone else’s markdown editor, but they made that possible.
As it stands they claim to give you a pretty steep discount if you use your own servers. I don’t know how steep of a discount it really is…
But standard notes was never free as in beer, it was free as in speech… And AFAIK there’s nothing to stop you from learning to code, forking the app, removing the licensing mechanism, and making your own build.
AFAIK there’s nothing to stop you from learning to code
I learned to self host. I learned to hack the extensions so they’d work when the SN company broke them.
But sure, it’s my fault for not learning enough. How dare I expect to take someone else’s code and just run it (ie, the thing they’re doing with their editors)
Gatekeeping valid criticism with ad hominem does nothing. I’ve already suggested multiple positive ways SN can make money, and it’s by offering value rather than selling subscriptions to editors they didn’t make and don’t maintain.
Thankfully I don’t need to show my contributions to open-source to prove myself to you, because I’m sure at that point you’d just shift the goalposts to some other arbitrary thing.
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I understand the need for Standard Notes to make money, but I believe that offering the convenience and security of hosting is a good way to do this, not by selling subscriptions for self-hosted users to access extensions that are mostly wrappers for someone else’s work. Especially the editors:
(This is also probably why so many Standard Notes editors look out of place next to each other; they were made by totally different people at different times.)
I don’t entirely disagree… But, if they build the entire platform and you can just self host and use someone else’s editors inside their platform, they’re not making any money and the fact that they made their code open source and overly generous is ultimately probably a major factor in that.
Ultimately you may be about to use someone else’s markdown editor, but they made that possible.
As it stands they claim to give you a pretty steep discount if you use your own servers. I don’t know how steep of a discount it really is…
But standard notes was never free as in beer, it was free as in speech… And AFAIK there’s nothing to stop you from learning to code, forking the app, removing the licensing mechanism, and making your own build.
I learned to self host. I learned to hack the extensions so they’d work when the SN company broke them.
But sure, it’s my fault for not learning enough. How dare I expect to take someone else’s code and just run it (ie, the thing they’re doing with their editors)
“I paid (and contributed) nothing and I’m angry I wasn’t coddled”
Gatekeeping valid criticism with ad hominem does nothing. I’ve already suggested multiple positive ways SN can make money, and it’s by offering value rather than selling subscriptions to editors they didn’t make and don’t maintain.
Thankfully I don’t need to show my contributions to open-source to prove myself to you, because I’m sure at that point you’d just shift the goalposts to some other arbitrary thing.