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Not gonna lie, this sounds like:

“I’ve never heard of any Christian saying anything against being evil in this way.”
“That’s because you don’t hear from Christians. Try asking one.”
“There’s no reason to hear from Christians, they’re evil in that way.”

Frankly, this sounds like it’s going to be a long and tiring conversation. If you militantly believe that something so simple as telling a friend that Jesus loves them is an act of fascism, I don’t think this is going to be productive or enjoyable for either of us.



Try asking your nearest pastor. It’s hard for real Christian statements to get around. Where are you going to hear it?

The news? They won’t share it because it’s not really news. They don’t share much besides events, and news networks are biased towards negative events and crimes, which would generally be perpetrated by fake Christians (like christofascists.)

Social media? Christian statements don’t trend because there are too many Christian-haters that downvote and argue. The closest you get is “look at these evil christofascists” kind of stuff like this.

Word of mouth and one-on-one conversations is by far the best way.



So what I’m seeing here is that I’m being accused of fascism because some people I never met who claim to share my religion are fascists. But apparently that’s a justified accusation because apparently I have no issues with them.

It wasn’t okay to lump Muslims in with Al-Qaeda. Why is this okay? Because the people you’re lumping me in with are in power?


You seem to be putting words in my mouth. People I know that talk to me about these sorts of things know that this isn’t how I think at all.

I never claim to have all the answers, and there’s a lot I don’t know about the Bible. In fact, if you talk to me about the biblical stance of abortion in particular, I’ll say that I don’t know at what point someone becomes a person, and the Bible doesn’t give a clear answer - if anything, it implies that you’re a person before you’re even conceived, which could mean that not having kids is murder, but that’s ridiculous and obviously wrong.

I also never push for controlling others. As I said in another thread here, it has to be a choice, otherwise God might as well control us all directly. And I definitely never try to use the law as a tool to make others moral. If the law were capable of making people moral, there would be no need for Jesus.

By the way, there are people out there who think Christians are evil for believing others should think the same way they do even if they agree it’s optional. I’ve met them. I’m not lumping you in with them, just contradicting your claim that nobody cares.

EDIT: By the way, you didn’t define evangelical. If it’s not too much trouble, I would like to know how you define it.


Pick a lane? I think you’re assuming others’ actions are mine. I don’t force others to follow the Bible at all, because that’s not the biblical way. It has to be a choice, otherwise God might as well force us all directly.


I’d like to know what you meant by evangelical. I’d consider myself evangelical in that I believe in evangelism (telling people about Jesus) and in the evangel (the Gospel,) but every time I hear the word used by non-Christians, it’s regarded like it’s a flavor of fascism or something.


Can’t argue with that logic. I can disagree, but I can’t really argue because there’s nothing there to argue with, and asking for clarification might sound like sealioning. I’m not really in a sealioning mood, so have a nice day.


Hi, Christian here. I agree that a lot of this is quite fishy. There are a couple things I want to contest though:

Violent prayer. I never heard of it before, but I looked it up. It’s a misnomer, and the definition provided here is incorrect. It simply refers to persistent and fervent prayer.

Prayerwalking. Its inclusion implies that there’s something creepy or dangerous about it, but it’s actually harmless. It’s literally just people going for a walk and praying as they go (not making a show of it.)


Hi, Christian here. I can’t speak for all Christians, but this isn’t accurate to my behaviors or perceptions.

I generally save the “conversion process” as you call it until after I already know someone because there’s more trust from a friend. So it’s not my immediate action (and also not something I’m trying to force on them.) Also, if they’re not my “personal brand” of Christian, I don’t feel a need to convert them, because what matters is following Christ earnestly, not checking all the right answers to unclear questions. Unless it’s like the World Mission Society Church of God or something.

I don’t assume that other religions and ideologies are full of aggressive evangelicals. I do think there are some aggressive evangelicals, but most of the time the pushing of other religions is a slow and passive thing, and the pushing of ideologies is a thing of culture as a whole, not specific agents.


Hi, Christian here. No, we are not called upon to kill our family members for not being Christians. Hope this helps.

And if you’d like to dispute by pointing out verses that imply we should be killing people, please save us both some time and check the context of the verse. Some of them are in parables, and others are of the old law back before there was hope for salvation in Christ. If you find any that are neither, I’d be surprised, but please let me know.