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Not exactly, no, but a website can’t reasonably be expected to cover everything and that wouldn’t be desirable either.


What does “cloudflare so who cares lol” mean exactly?

Cloudflare is so good that you don’t even have to care about your privacy because they’ve got it covered?

or

Nobody who uses Cloudflare would care about privacy, and for some reason that’s worthy of a “lol”?

or what?


Yes, the term censorship in this context is particularly infuriating to me. It’s not censorship since these are privately owned websites that can link to whatever they like, and users can choose whether or not to use them. When DuckDuckGo launched, before privacy concerns were such a pressing issue the fact that they filtered poor quality sources was one of their most advertised selling points: https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/07/26/26327/the-search-engine-backlash-against-content-mills/


Sure, I wish them nothing but failure, but I’m intending to wait around and see what happens first. From what I’ve heard Threads isn’t going well for them anyway. I still worry that even if there’s mass defederation it would still poison the pool, because it would influence the culture of instances that are federated with it and isolate those that aren’t.


Nothing is federated to Threads, they haven’t switched it on yet.


None of that is particularly the thing that worries me - Meta could be crawling Lemmy right now and getting all that information even if they weren’t planning on supporting federation, but it’s on the public web intentionally to be read, so it’s just like anyone else reading it. The only piece of information I’m surprised would get shared is IP address, and without knowing the technical reasons I’m wondering how/why they would get this and if it’s something Lemmy could fix in software.

The main thing that worries me is still if the toxic culture of Meta’s social networks floods into our communities.


This doesn’t answer your question properly, but a few years ago when I moved away from the YouTube front end (I use FreeTube primarily), like you I initially missed the recommendation algorithm (more than I thought). But the longer I went without it, I realised that the recommendations were really fuelling a kind of mindless addiction, eventually I started to watch fewer but higher quality videos, usually based on what other humans had recommended to me and I’ve found that to be a much better experience overall. Remember the algorithm is designed to keep you on the platform for as long as possible, not necessarily to give you the highest quality experience.


While it makes things less convenient I would still argue that’s splitting hairs, everything in RHEL was in CentOS Stream and can be assembled from the source code there.

As for Fedora, the fact that it’s opt out instead of opt in concerns me. At least with Ubuntu it’s opt in.

Actually (it’s buried in the discussion so I can’t find it at the moment), Matthew Miller (I think it was him) gave Ubuntu as an example of how it might work in Fedora, i.e. you’ll be presented with the option after initial install, it’s not going to be something that’s buried in settings.


Well, it is still open source, and even with new restrictions the majority of Red Hat’s developer contributions are upstream, they are very much an open source company.

Fedora asked its community for feedback about a proposal to add opt-out privacy-conscious telemetry.

In both cases when all nuance is removed it becomes disingenuous and misleading, it’s harmful because it’s easier to spread such a black and white view compared to the truth and people end up making decisions based on it.


RH Closing source code and adding telemetry to Fedora

Neither of those statements are true, it’s a shame when people make decisions on bad information.


This has been one of the most overly milked and sensationalised stories I’ve seen.


I understand that, and that’s why I block ad servers, but the subreddits I’m active on is also something I’ve shared publicly, albeit under a pseudonym, I kind of think of that as fair game for algorithms to analyse because it’s done in public. Good luck to them showing me ads because I’ve not seen an ad on the internet since the early 00s. Sneaky tracking of activity off of Reddit is another matter.


Is that posting history or more than that? Because stuff that I’ve posted in a public forum is for public consumption, same as on here. If there’s underhanded tracking involved for things I do outside of Reddit that’s more concerning, but back when I signed up to Reddit it didn’t even need an email address, my Reddit account could have just been a fictional character for all Reddit knows.


Was that a privacy concern?

I mean fuck Reddit, but with tracking blocked was it ever more of a concern than other websites?