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Maybe try it out on standard Firefox as a quick test? While annoying, this would help validate that the issue is with the librewolf changes to standard Firefox.

Also note that I also use both proton mail and drive from librewolf. Even today. If it’s a general issue with this setup, it hasn’t hit my machine (yet)


I looked into proton pass ~9 months ago and it just wasn’t ready. Needed a few more features before I was willing to move from Bitwarden. However, I gave it another look 2 weeks ago and proton pass satisfied all of my needs. Since I was already paying for proton unlimited, it just made sense for me to change. And it’s been a perfectly good experience so far! A couple of thoughts:

While I do run Linux, I don’t need a native app for it. I exclusively use a browser extension on my desktop. It does everything that I need. I do use a native app on IOS and it works quite well.

The 2fa in proton is pretty good now, which I needed. It can also store other types of data like credit cards, identities, etc. But it’s not quite as good at identifying fields for auto fill. Pretty close though so I’m not bothered by this.

My biggest ”complaint” is protecting my proton account. I use it for email, storage, etc. so I can’t accept a weak password for it. But I also need to have reliable access to other passwords stored in proton pass. For this, I want something long yet memorable and easy enough to type out. These two requirements are roughly at odds with each other.

My solution for now is to keep my Bitwarden account and use it as a source to recover my proton account when necessary. I think it’s a good pattern actually and I may expand this in the future with methods like syncing data between the two tools.


Well that sounds promising. Time for me to dig into it. Thanks!!


Interesting feature but I’m a little disappointed that this is a feature for business accounts only. I have a Duo account; are there any features that would allow me to share certain emails with my wife? For example, it would be great if we could both receive the exact same emails related to our credit card statements. Or car loan. Or electric bill. Etc.

Anyone have tips?


I largely agree. The title and opening words are misleading. The rest of the article is much more clear that they are defending their position of using VPN software that relies on storage and securing it with full disk encryption.

Also, full disk encryption doesn’t solve everything. If an attacker has access to the running server, the disk is unencrypted. At that point, reading files is much easier than reading RAM from a running process.


I had the same experience. Though I strongly suspect this is an IOS limitation rather than an issue with the proton app. Just an fyi for optics


This is awesome! Thanks for the new feature. Hopefully, this is one more step away from apple in my life. I’ll be testing it out shortly


Proton is obviously promoting their own product: proton pass. I tried it and found that it needs a little more development time. Just a little polishing.

In the meantime, Bitwarden is fantastic. I also hear good things about onepass. Don’t use chrome’s password manager.