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No, their customer base is now American Libertarians, not FOSS and privacy-centric people.

There is a mild overlap, but the actual target demographic has been made much clearer recently.


Because it sends a message that they do not support community-driven projects and will instead support large, corporate social media.

It would not have meant anything if they were never on Mastodon in the first place.


I don’t see how it’s relevant with a productivity suite.





I’m having a hard time believing anything they say when the incoming administration they seemingly support is constantly making threats of invading our country.


Andy here, since it’s my original post that’s being reposted here, let me comment further.

My post is talking about Gail Slater, who is by all measures, actually a good pick, with a solid track record of being on the right side of the antitrust issue. Yes, she happens to be nominated by Trump, but her record speaks for itself.

This is not going to be a popular opinion, but on the specific issue of antitrust, Democrats fell short. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. In the aftermath of this failure, great people like former Democratic rep David Cicilline left congress, leaving few strong voices for antitrust left in the Democratic party. In the meantime, at a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. And that’s a missed opportunity for Dems, because by and large, support for cracking down on corporate monopolies is popular on both sides of the political spectrum. Unfortunately, corporate capture of Dems is real and in the end money won. It is hard to see how this changes, and Republicans are likely to lead the antitrust charge in the coming years.

From that perspective, and going back to my original post, Gail is a great pick. One should not equate our support of Gail for Proton not being neutral anymore. We continue to call out bad behavior from both sides, whether it’s Dems or Republicans, on our core issues. Just a few weeks ago, we were called out for being in bed with Soros because we gave money to too many “liberal” organizations: https://proton.me/blog/2024-lifetime-fundraiser-results No, the Proton Foundation isn’t the new Soros either (even if we may coincidentally fund some of the same things sometimes). We simply stick with our strongly held core believes, and leave politics out of it, because the issues we care about, should be apolitical.





I’m tempted to move away from Proton tbh, I don’t get enough value as a Linux user to justify the price. Might keep SimpleLogin though.




Proton Mail (Android / Web / Desktop): Automatic attachment upload to Proton Drive
Hello! As per the title, I think it would be really useful to have an automatic upload and attachment of any items over the 25MB limit to Proton Drive. This is something I sorely miss from Gmail which makes sending some types of emails a pain as I have to first upload it to Drive, create a public link, keep track of all my publicly shared files, and make sure the link works before placing it awkwardly in my email.
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Proton Calendar Android - No multi-account support
Hello! As per the title, Proton Calendar for Android does not appear to support multiple signed in accounts. This means I can only get notifications for personal appointments or client meetings, but not both, and the web version never prompts to enable notifications on Android. I am thus liable to miss events on whichever calendar I am not currently signed into. This is not an acceptable level of support for a professional suite. Is there a roadmap for when this feature will be added?
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I’ll give it a shot, thanks! It just sucks to be paying so much for a service and not even have a functional mobile app, nor be able to connect something like K9 to it.


Proton mail android: Inline attachments + Seeing / removing existing attachments
On Android, I noticed two major features that are missing that make it extremely difficult to use the mobile version for me: 1. I can't add inline attachments. This makes communicating with clients and pointing at stuff impossible on mobile. 2. I can't browse existing attachments to view and remove them. This means I have to start my reply all over again and delete the draft if I uploaded the wrong thing, and I can't validate that I did upload the right thing. Also, pasting into a message body is broken on the beta, but working on stable (the only option is "select all") There's also no rich text, which is sometimes painful when writing long emails on the go, and it means I can't bold stuff to indicate importance. I also had issues with sent emails from drafts where a draft was created on mobile, finished on the web and sent, the mobile client will show as if I had sent the unfinished mobile draft, which sent me into a panic last night haha.
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It’s all I care about, unfortunately.

I want Proton to succeed simply on an ideological basis, but myself and a lot of other people are being severely hampered by this lack of functionality on the Linux desktop, which is ironic given that this is where the privacy-centric user base lives. As a customer of both Proton Unlimited and Proton Business, I don’t feel taken care of, and almost all the alternatives have some functional, easy to use drive sync functionality on Linux, on top of letting me use the cloud calendar locally.

I’m slowly migrating away from Proton Business use towards hosted mail + NextCloud as it did not meet my needs at all for a 90% Linux desktop use case, but I hope to revisit it in the future.


Still waiting for the Linux Drive client.



Nail on the head. I will keep Proton for personal use, but for professional use, I’ll unfortunately be moving away for these and so many more reasons. It’s not a ready product at all.


Cool, when will the bridge get caldav support?

I don’t use the Proton calendar at all because I can’t use it with GNOME nor Thunderbird, so I have to use a local calendar.



Can’t add inline images on Android email client?
Seems like a really basic feature, I can't paste / add inline images on the Android email client, my only option is to attach images and hope the recipient thinks to click on the attachment. I can't think of another email client that is this basic.
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Use a passphrase. Easy for a human to remember, hard for a machine to crack.

The difference is a passphrase is a bunch of random words stringed together so you get a longer passcode, versus a shorter string of random characters, which is a password.

Obviously the best is long passwords, but that’s only if you have a password manager.


“joining forces” is just corporate speech for an acquisition.


Don’t get me started on Firefox PWAs.

I use Firefox, but I have to use a different browser for PWAs, it sucks. If I’m lucky, Epiphany works with that website, otherwise I have to use some Chromium browser. Bleh.


I don’t understand who the email apps are for, installing the website as a PWA is a better experience.



Can’t you break into their VPN, steal some dev credentials and fix it yourself on their Git repo? /s


Thanks, I’ll have to try it again, but protondrive wasn’t an item in the list last I tried, so I couldn’t select it by number. The docs do suggest typing out the name of the backend.



I tried, but it wasn’t available as a backend for some reason. I’m on the latest version, a couple patch releases after the one where support for Proton Drive was added.



Automatically uploading attachments greater than 25mb to Proton Drive?
Hello! As per the title, one feature I miss from Gmail and similar is the ability to automatically upload files greater than 25mb to a cloud destination. I wonder if it's already possible and I've simply missed it, or if it's in the works. This would have the added benefit of giving purpose to my Proton Drive, which sits useless and empty as a Linux user as I can't really sync it to anything besides my phone.
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I mean tbh anything not released for Linux is wholly useless to me, so I get where they’re coming from.


To encourage people to migrate, it’s par for the course.

They don’t communicate anything back to Google, they just import from it, set up mail forward and suggest that you can set up the accounts you’re familiar with with your proton email (which you can do with any email account, without Google having any access to your emails). You’re reading way too much into this.

If you’re that paranoid, don’t trust any private company with your information and run your own private mail server.


It’s a bug, they confirmed it was a bug, and it affects paid customers, too. Don’t jump to conclusions.


It’s a bug, bugs happen.

Source: am software engineer


Have you considered unsubscribing from the community?



I actually tried applying, EU and UK only, with some positions in Asia. US / Canada need not apply.